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| 02:10 | willkg | mmm... seems like my macbook problem is a problem with the charger. irritating, but not too hard to fix. |
| 02:10 | anyhow... time to jet. later! | |
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| 15:03 | z3p | morning |
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| 16:43 | paulproteus | Morning, all. |
| 16:49 | ajonas: You wanted to chat later today. Did you end up finding Dean and/or picking a time? | |
| 16:50 | z3p: Can I get a quick sanity check on http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=14970 ? | |
| 16:52 | ajonas: My day's priorities are: Land a fix for http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=14970 ; Work more on tiers; http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=15075 | |
| 16:53 | ajonas | paulproteus: great! looks good. |
| 16:53 | z3p | paulproteus: other than 'get_string' being a confusing name for that tag, it looks like it'll solve the issue |
| 16:53 | paulproteus | Yeah, create_query_string might be a better name. |
| 16:53 | ajonas | paulproteus: does the 1.2 milestone seem vaguely reasonable now? there were a couple things i was loathe to kick out, but if you see stuff you really think should wait, feel free to push it to 1.5. |
| 16:54 | z3p | paulproteus: or 'create_replacement_query_string' or something, yeah |
| 16:54 | paulproteus | z3p: b |
| 16:56 | ajonas: When are you hoping to have 1.2 by? | |
| 16:56 | Ouch, the thumbnail bug kind of sucks. | |
| 16:57 | ajonas | paulproteus: i was thinking we'd see how tiers went and then set a date, maybe |
| 16:57 | paulproteus | Yeah, I like that plan the most. (-: |
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| 16:57 | paulproteus | I say we hold performance stuff like http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=14355 off, and then do a performance-only release. |
| 16:58 | ajonas | fwiw, i can't reproduce the thumbnail problem on a live test site |
| 16:58 | paulproteus | Huh, okay. |
| 16:58 | ajonas | paulproteus: that's fine w me |
| 16:58 | paulproteus | Could have been fixed, then? |
| 16:58 | ajonas: I am personally extremely excited about a performance-only release right after 1.2. | |
| 16:59 | ajonas | paulproteus: i think that makes sense, esp if that's both performance for end users and for being more efficient on our resources |
| 16:59 | paulproteus | Yeah, exactly. Conveniently, they're the same. (-: |
| 17:00 | Well, not literally the same, but they share a lot, anyway. | |
| 17:02 | Can we similarly move http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=13628 to the performance release? | |
| 17:03 | (Do we call that 1.3? 1.5?) | |
| 17:04 | z3p: What causes the emails to get sent, as per http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=15075 ? Is it a cron job (AKA management command)? | |
| 17:04 | Like, what triggers the once-daily action? | |
| 17:04 | ajonas | paulproteus: if we must, though we'd really like to minimize the load. but it's not unreasonable. |
| 17:05 | paulproteus | For some reason, I have this feeling that I want to focus more on code-type stuff and less on sysadmin-y stuff for 1.2. |
| 17:05 | ajonas | uh, let's make that 1.3, if that makes sense. |
| 17:05 | paulproteus | I like 1.3 as the name. |
| 17:05 | ajonas | what kind of things are sys-adminy? |
| 17:05 | z3p | paulproteus: 'update_original_data' |
| 17:05 | paulproteus | Site deactivation. |
| 17:06 | z3p | paulproteus: and then the e-mails are sent from the notifications |
| 17:06 | paulproteus | ajonas: Things that change the configuration on the web server or relate to our deployment of MC. |
| 17:06 | ajonas | ok. i'm on board, as long as we tackle deactivation right after 1.2. |
| 17:07 | paulproteus | Fine by me. |
| 17:08 | z3p: b | |
| 17:08 | There's a cron job that calls this? | |
| 17:09 | * paulproteus | looks |
| 17:10 | z3p | paulproteus: www-data's cron |
| 17:10 | paulproteus | b |
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| 18:16 | willkg | hi! |
| 18:21 | paulproteus | Hi! |
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| 20:44 | bendk | hi all |
| 20:45 | willkg: how would you feel about pushing off #14804 | |
| 20:46 | or, alternatively, can you think of a simple way to make it so we add extensions to youtube FLV's | |
| 20:46 | willkg | bendk: so... this is funny. i feel like i keep saying the same thing about this. |
| 20:47 | flashscraper is not set up to dictate what the file name should be. | |
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| 20:47 | willkg | so... we can add that to whatever it is that figures out the filename. your idea of looking at the content type and faking it based it on that if there's no extension is probably fine. |
| 20:48 | bendk | the worry I have about that is now we're changing the behavior for all downloads, not just youtube ones |
| 20:48 | although, I guess that adding an extension wouldn't hurt | |
| 20:48 | willkg | i'm still skeptical that the problem is really a problem. i think the test we're using to determine that is possibly wrong. "open in miro" does different things. |
| 20:48 | bendk | I'm almost positive it is |
| 20:48 | willkg | what we should be doing is running qt_extractor on files that have no extension to see what it does. that's a more appropriate test. |
| 20:49 | the open in miro thing has different code because we wanted miro to be able to open files immediately rather than wait for the moviedata script to run. | |
| 20:49 | bendk | I think it still goes through moviedata eventually |
| 20:49 | willkg | lucsky: do you remember this? i'm pretty sure you and i worked through this. |
| 20:49 | bendk | I make qt_extractor printout it's output, and put that in the bug report |
| 20:49 | willkg | right... but it uses file extensions. |
| 20:50 | and we're positive this isn't a bug in qt_extractor? | |
| 20:50 | bendk | it might be possible to workaround it, but I think it's a quicktime bug/feature depending on how you want to look at it |
| 20:50 | willkg | i'm just really surprised that quicktime expects the extension to be correct rather than just check the file for appropriate fingerprints indicating its media type. |
| 20:50 | bendk | I know I've seen similar things in the past |
| 20:50 | willkg | ok. |
| 20:50 | bendk | yes, it's really stupid |
| 20:51 | willkg | ok. well, let's assume i'm wrong and go from there. |
| 20:51 | bendk | when using final cut pro, I've had to rename movie files so that the had an extension to get it to be able to import the movies |
| 20:51 | willkg | youtube still serves a lot of flv files. so having this bug causes osx users to not be able to view flv files from youtube which i think is a big problem. |
| 20:51 | therefore it should get fixed somehow. | |
| 20:52 | bendk | I guess i'm not sure about the formats, but when I was testing the bug, I downloaded like 10 movies without extensions and they all played well |
| 20:52 | it was only when I went for that movie that geoff specifically pointed out that I saw the error | |
| 20:52 | willkg | pretty sure we only look at fmt codes for .flv and .mp4 files. and i'm pretty sure i got flashscraper to send the right content type along. |
| 20:52 | bendk | yes, I believe we do |
| 20:52 | okay, you've convinced me | |
| 20:53 | willkg | so... whatever determines the file name should do a quick check. hopefully it knows the content type at that point. |
| 20:53 | bendk | in the downloader daemon, we check to see if we are saving something with no extension, then create an extension based on the content-type |
| 20:53 | willkg | flashscraper sucks so much. i'm really kicking myself that i didn't follow paroneayea's lead and ditch it when he wrote vidscraper. bad decision on my part. |
| 20:55 | bendk | is it worth it putting this code in master as well? Seems like it could be useful for movies that don't go through flashscraper/vidscraper as well |
| 20:59 | willkg | mmm... yes. |
| 21:00 | if i had my druthers, i'd use the same code i wrote for video conversion filenames and change how we do filenames. | |
| 21:00 | but babystepping in that direction is good in case my druthers don't pan out because i run out of time/energy. | |
| 21:00 | or we hit some monster technical issue. | |
| 21:04 | bendk: does that sound ok? | |
| 21:04 | bendk | sounds good to me |
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| 21:15 | willkg | the flashscraper -> vidscraper bug is 15190. the filename one is 8913. |
| 21:15 | both are in the 4.0 target. don't want to lose track of them. | |
| 21:29 | bendk: i worked on the ffmpeg updates yesterday for osx. i'm having problems with my macbook. pretty sure i'm half done, but i'm bumping into conversion issues now. | |
| 21:29 | bendk: so i'm still working on that. i haven't even started on the windows side, yet. | |
| 21:29 | bendk | okay |
| 21:30 | willkg | bendk: and i haven't gotten to investigating 14994. |
| 21:30 | bendk | seems like an RC is at least few days off, but hopefully we can get it out in that timeframe |
| 21:31 | * willkg | nods. |
| 21:31 | bendk | hmm, that one seems nasty |
| 21:31 | do you think we need to fix it for 3.5.1? | |
| 21:31 | willkg | i don't know. all i know is that there are a few different WindowsErrors users are running into. needs more analysis in regards to how many users, how frequently, and what the specifics are. |
| 21:32 | and what the probably causes are. | |
| 21:32 | seems like it's a small issue. none of us can reproduce it. | |
| 21:32 | that's why i stuck it in the p2 list. | |
| 21:35 | bendk: one thing i'd love to do if i have enough time is to at least put more logging into those subprocess calls so we can better ascertain the context and what's going on. | |
| 21:36 | bendk: like... what path is it looking at? is there a file there? what are the permissions on the file? ... | |
| 21:37 | bendk | that would be a huge step |
| 21:37 | if that's all we did, we could probably have a fix for 3.5.2/4.0 | |
| 21:37 | * willkg | nods. |
| 21:37 | willkg | i'll try to get to it. i'll let you know if i can't. |
| 21:38 | anyhow... off to ffmpeg stuff now. afk a bit. | |
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| 22:00 | willkg | ugh. i can't believe it's 5:00pm already. |
| 22:00 | screw you time! why can't you slow down so i can get stuff done! | |
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| 22:46 | willkg | bendk: i think i figured out some/most of the ffmpeg issues i had. i'll check the osx code in soon. |
| 22:46 | bendk: but i think it causes breakage with the args, so i'll have to look at that. | |
| 22:47 | afk for dinner.... | |
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