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14:04 willkg hi!
14:47 z3p good morning
15:13 paulproteus Hey now, everybody now!
15:15 willkg hi!
15:16 paulproteus Today is going to be super great.
15:16 At least, I think so. Let my check my calendar.
15:17 Oops, I did double-book my evening.
15:17 willkg oops!
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15:37 paulproteus Yo ajonas.
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16:09 paulproteus Yay, I fixed my double-booking!
16:09 ajonas: You filed a bug about the bulk edit issues you were experiencing on Chrome?
16:10 ajonas paulproteus: not sure, i'd have to look
16:11 paulproteus I would appreciate it if you would look, if that's possible.
16:11 I see an error email, and want to make sure that we've recorded it.
16:11 ajonas paulproteus: i don't think so, unless i said otherwise, though i am happy to look
16:12 paulproteus: it was part of the testing i was doing to try to reproduce a problem
16:12 paulproteus: i think i talked about it in irc, maybe in #staff
16:12 paulproteus Yeah, I think so; I can check on that and file it if that's easier.
16:14 ajonas paulproteus: i can't reproduce the problem anymore, but there is already a ticket for errors on the bulk edit page
16:14 paulproteus: though potentially not the same error
16:15 paulproteus Yeah, I guess that'll do.
16:16 ajonas oops, I was using firefox when testing there - i still have the same problem on (one) mc site in chrome. shall i update that existing bug? i don't get an error message
16:19 paulproteus I was hoping you could trigger the Python exception that was emailing me.
16:19 Sadly that didn't happen!
16:19 But you might as well update the existing bug with what you're experiencing, and I can sort it out in a bit.
16:27 willkg afk a bit...  need coffee and breakfast.
16:27 er, lunch.
16:27 paulproteus Clearly the coffee.
16:28 willkg ;)
16:29 CarlFK i still need breakfast
16:46 ajonas paulproteus: bug updated
17:05 paulproteus ajonas: (i'm writing up the tiers update now on the bug)
17:06 ajonas paulproteus: cool, thanks
17:06 paroneayea paulproteus: so I should use git format-patch to send you patches?
17:06 paulproteus paroneayea: Yes, that'd be flippin' sweet.
17:07 paroneayea kk
17:07 paulproteus Either to the MC-devel mailing list, or attached to a bug.
17:07 paroneayea kk, sounds grood
17:07 paulproteus As I understand things, PCF wants (C) assignment too.
17:07 paroneayea I've already done that
17:07 I used to work at the PCF remember? ;)
17:08 paulproteus Well, sure, but I imagine that if you're working on MC stuff during CC time, the work you're doing is owned by CC.
17:08 paroneayea oh hm
17:08 paulproteus Rather, the (C) to the work you're doing.
17:08 paroneayea ok :)
17:16 willkg back.
17:16 paulproteus sweetness.
17:16 willkg paulproteus: so...  how's your day look?
17:17 paulproteus: i could do all the things i said i was going to do and then talk with you about flashscraper/vidscraper.  or i could go work on other things.
17:17 paulproteus: if you're busy, then i'll work on other things.
17:17 paulproteus I can handle some vidscraper chat, 'cause I want that to proceed.
17:17 willkg ok.  i'll go do the things i said i was going to do, then.
17:18 paulproteus b
17:18 willkg can you chat in an hour or two?
17:18 paulproteus Yup; that's better than now, even.
17:18 willkg er, when's a good time to chat?
17:19 paulproteus ca. 1 PM or after
17:20 Between 1 and 6 PM.
17:23 willkg ok.  sounds good.  i'll ping you when i'm done doing my homework.
17:40 paulproteus b
17:49 ajonas: Is there any particularly reasonable way to select which admins get demoted when you drop down the tier you're in?
17:49 ajonas paulproteus: most recently made admins
17:50 paulproteus Yeah, except I don't know if we store that.
17:50 I'll check.
17:50 willkg sort them alphabetically and ditch people at the beginning of the alphabet.  :)
17:50 ajonas paulproteus: ok. if not then i'm not sure there's a reasonable way, it might have to be alphabetical
17:50 willkg: heh
17:50 paulproteus Hah.
17:50 I was going to say high user IDs, AKA late signups.
17:50 ajonas paulproteus: but the site creator should always stay admin by default
17:50 willkg or hash their names and sort by the hash.
17:51 ajonas paulproteus: that works
17:51 paulproteus ajonas: that much I have for sure.
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17:51 willkg bendk: hi!
17:51 bendk hey will
17:51 so I still haven't sent out that email about list performance, but that's because I have a new idea for it
17:51 willkg list performance?  pretend i don't remember what that is.
17:52 bendk I'm just going to try to implement it and see if it works instead of dumping my brain
17:52 item list performance when adding/removing rows
17:52 willkg ahhh...  right.
17:52 bendk you suggested it on the call
17:52 good suggestion, but while I was writing up I had (hopefully) a eureka moment
17:53 willkg i did?  mmm...  this whole "can't get more than 3 hours of sleep in a row for weeks on end" thing is really handicapping me.
18:07 paulproteus: you said to look at profile_importer.py ...  but i don't see such a thing in the tree.  did i copy and paste the name of the file wrong?
18:07 paulproteus git ls-files | grep profile_importer.py
18:07 mysite/customs/profile_importer.py
18:07 iirc
18:08 One more thing you should know is the OpenHatch concept of a DataImportAttempt.
18:08 willkg mmm...  i don't see that file in the tree.
18:08 paulproteus If you already know it, great; if not, I can explain.
18:08 * paulproteus gulps.
18:08 paulproteus willkg: Did you clone from Gitorious, or from code-dot-openhatch?
18:08 willkg i just did a "find . -name 'profile*'" from the root of the tree and there are no files like that.
18:08 paulproteus code-dot-openhatch provides git service but serves out an old version.
18:08 I guess that's less than great.
18:08 willkg i went to https://openhatch.org/blog/source-code-etc/ and used the git clone line from that.
18:09 paulproteus oH MAN
18:09 I fixed that LAST NIGHT but it's still cached by WP-SuperCache!!!
18:09 willkg heh.  :)
18:09 sorry dude.
18:09 paulproteus I owe you a sorry!
18:10 willkg no worries.  i did like the "it's file such-and-such"  "oh no it isn't."  "yes it is.  you can find it using standard ways to find files in a tree."  "oh no i can't."  ...
18:10 it was a fun conversation.  :)
18:10 paulproteus :D Clearly you need more sleep!
18:10 Please re-try!
18:10 willkg if monty python ever did sketch comedy that was code-related, it'd totally be like that.
18:11 ok.  now it says oh-mainline.git.  i'll grab that and start over.  :)
18:12 paulproteus Sweetness.
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18:41 * paulproteus waves to Odysimus
19:02 ajonas getting lunch, afk for a bit
19:17 paulproteus Cool, check in with me when you're back, ajonas!
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19:27 ajonas paulproteus: back
19:28 paulproteus ajonas: Drat (-: Well, I've gotten some skeletal work done on checking if you will lose admins, and if so, removing them from your site.
19:28 I can deploy it for your poking by 3.
19:28 ajonas paulproteus: sounds good
20:04 paulproteus ajonas: okay, log into floyd-dev!
20:05 One thing you should know:
20:05 ajonas paulproteus: just going to finish up writing something first
20:06 paulproteus The "Switch down to basic" button is the yellow one in the up-right that says "Uprade Today!" [sic]
20:06 It's mis-labeled in the UI, so I'm telling you here what it does.
20:06 ajonas: Cool
20:06 I'm going to write out some notes for you here, and you can play with it once you're' ready.
20:06 You're on Premium right now. If you drop down to Plus or Basic, you will lose admins, and the UI will show you that.
20:10 ajonas cool - i don't want to do it b/c it will take away your access!
20:11 paulproteus: so beware, i'll try it out briefly
20:11 paulproteus ajonas: It's okay (-: you can re-add me, and/or I can put me back in from the DB.
20:11 ajonas paulproteus: did you end up doing it by latest created?
20:12 paulproteus It's "sort admins by user ID, and choose the highest user ID"
20:12 ajonas paulproteus: wait - it shouldn't delete the user, just make them non-admin, right?
20:12 paulproteus Right.
20:12 ajonas k
20:12 paulproteus: error
20:12 "Forbidden (403)"
20:12 http://floyd-dev.mirocommunity[…]rmed_change_tier/
20:12 paulproteus Oh, right.
20:12 * paulproteus rolls his eyes.
20:13 paulproteus Thanks, I'll fix that right now.
20:14 ...weird.
20:16 There's a deployment difference between my machine and the dev servers.
20:17 ajonas paulproteus: also, if you choose "Cancel" (our warning scared you) it should take you back to the Tiers page, not to the review queue
20:18 paulproteus ajonas: Fixed the 403 problem.
20:18 ajonas paulproteus: cool
20:19 paulproteus And cancel, too!
20:19 ajonas paulproteus: now i didn't get the warning page at all
20:19 paulproteus Yeah -- I already sent you down to Plus to test it.
20:19 Try going down to basic?
20:19 I will go slyly make my an admin while you do that.
20:20 ajonas paulproteus: error on cancel
20:21 paulproteus: i think you might have been overly restrictive - as far as i can tell i now have only 4 admins
20:21 paulproteus Oh, including yourself?
20:22 ajonas paulproteus: *nod*
20:22 * paulproteus rolls his eyes.
20:22 paulproteus Probably an off-by-one error on my part. I can test for that.
20:23 ajonas paulproteus: it also occurs when i try to promote someone, says i already have 5
20:24 paulproteus Huh, that's surprising.
20:24 I left a note in Bugzilla, and will fix those two things first thing tomorrow.
20:25 Thanks for working with me on that.
20:25 ajonas paulproteus: sure thing
20:27 paulproteus ajonas: Also I just fixed the cancel button, I think.
20:28 Untested, but "should work" (-:
20:28 ajonas paulproteus: ok
20:28 paulproteus Okay, now I'm off!
20:28 ajonas paulproteus: yep, works
20:28 paulproteus: see you tomorrow
22:08 willkg paulproteus: i've read through the openhatch code you pointed me to.  i haven't done the second thing i was going to do, yet, though.
22:08 paulproteus: and i'm running out of time for today.
22:08 paulproteus What was the second?
22:08 willkg paulproteus: so...  can we do the "kick this can down the road" mambo one more time?
22:08 paulproteus b
22:09 willkg i think it was look at the vidscraper code and the flashscraper code and come up with a suggested set of changes to support sync and async.
22:09 paulproteus Oh, right on.
22:09 BTW:
22:09 willkg honestly, i think it's not hard.  i think most of the work will be taking the existing work functions and splitting them into pieces.
22:09 paulproteus I think that if we "just" make vidscraper and flashscraper async, it's easy to understand how to do it synchronously.
22:09 Yeah, exactly
22:09 * willkg nods.
22:10 paulproteus I just want to have some reasonable structural basis for the splitting-up, and that's why I pointed you to the OH code, as an example of some such structural basis.
22:10 * willkg nods.
22:11 willkg you've got a bunch of classes in there.  that's probably reasonable.  flashscraper is a bunch of functions and sometimes it's hard to follow it because you don't know what goes with what.
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22:12 paulproteus Okay, well I think we can table it from here; I just want to imply that it's not all that terrifying (-:
22:12 willkg oh definitely.  and reading through the OH code was very helpful.
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22:40 paulproteus Oh, that's kind of surprising!
22:50 Seganok Hi Janet,
22:50 I am testing audio #3: audio - move to audio section then delete
22:50 I cannot 'Drag the feed from the video section to the audio section'
22:50 Maybe I cannot do it only on my laptop...
22:50 Sergei
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