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| 00:26 | paulproteus | maggie_s: Actually, I think it'll be tomorrow |
| 00:27 | maggie_s | paulproteus: that's fine, just please let me know when it is available to try |
| 00:29 | paulproteus: and regarding #16038 (downgrading with a lot of videos), is it ok to try that on maggie-dot tonight? | |
| 00:29 | paulproteus: I mean, with the no-enfirce mode on? | |
| 00:32 | paulproteus | maggie_s: Yes, that is! |
| 00:32 | maggie_s | paulproteus: fine, will do! Thanks! |
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| 04:03 | paulproteus | Evenin', CarlFK. |
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| 05:35 | paulproteus | deardiary: I think I might have a shippable version of a fix for the flowplayer-on-IE bug. |
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| 14:21 | z3p | paulproteus: ugh, what's the issue? |
| 14:33 | paulproteus | Commas at the end of the last element in a list is invalid syntax in JS. |
| 14:33 | ['a', 'b', 'c'] # right | |
| 14:33 | ['a', 'b', 'c',] # wrong | |
| 14:33 | Some IE seems to care. | |
| 14:34 | I have a fix locally against djvideo; I'll deploy it today likely. | |
| 14:35 | {'a': 'b', } # also wrong because of the trailing comma | |
| 14:38 | I was going to wake up earlier today, but I forgot to. | |
| 14:39 | z3p: In general: never generate data for JavaScript using Django templates. | |
| 14:39 | Generate it with simplejson and pass it in, raw, to the template. | |
| 14:39 | Only then can you achieve Enlightenment. | |
| 14:40 | z3p | ugh, IE |
| 14:40 | paulproteus: thanks for finding/fixing it though! | |
| 14:40 | paulproteus | z3p: I think some Safari also breaks on it. |
| 14:40 | But sure (-: | |
| 14:44 | z3p | deardiary: upgrading emacs on windows, then working on UI tickets |
| 14:46 | also, loading windows makes me sad every time | |
| 14:57 | CarlFK | paulproteus: http://docs.djangoproject.com/[…]es/builtins/#join If value is the list ['a', 'b', 'c'], the output will be the string "a // b // c". |
| 14:57 | morning ! | |
| 14:58 | but personally I would avoid constructing json too | |
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| 15:17 | bendk | willkg: lol |
| 15:18 | I was just about to write an email about doing that comment as an extension | |
| 15:20 | willkg | bendk: :) |
| 15:20 | pretty sure it's doable. it'd definitely stretch how much we could do with an extension. | |
| 15:28 | bendk | just sent an email about it |
| 15:29 | I'm really excited to start using miro as a HTPC | |
| 15:29 | I just bought a "nettop" to do it. I think I'll actually keep it running windows 7 so I'm forced to use that platform | |
| 15:30 | * willkg | nods. |
| 15:31 | willkg | it's kind of funny... i went down this road a couple of years ago but had a hell of a time with the interface and small fonts. |
| 15:34 | bendk | maybe the UI is at a point where we can actually modify things well. If an extension could give set a font scale factor then that could work |
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| 15:40 | willkg | bendk: i was thinking about doing some extension work in march. since we've got a code freeze in less than 2 weeks, i just feel bad about spending any time on extensions until then. |
| 15:40 | so... that's kind of where i'm at. | |
| 15:40 | bendk | That's pretty reasonable |
| 15:41 | If it doesn't happen for 4.0, I'll be okay | |
| 15:41 | * willkg | nods. |
| 15:42 | willkg | i think as long as we get menu changes in, we could do some of the things you want with 4.0 with some monkey-patching in the extension. |
| 16:01 | zanoi | morning |
| 16:02 | paulproteus | Mornin, zanoi. |
| 16:05 | zanoi | deardiary: working on bugs #6234 and #10381, will hopefully decide on what to do with some of the issues with magnet links today |
| 16:05 | paulproteus | afk for 20ish |
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| 16:36 | z3p | deardiary: trying to work with GTK themes |
| 16:45 | willkg | bendk: also, you might want to look at mythtv. david works on the miro/mythtv bridge and says it's pretty cool. |
| 16:46 | bendk: oh, but you're running it on windows. i'm not sure if mythtv runs on windows. | |
| 16:46 | bendk | yeah, such a bummer |
| 16:46 | I would love to run mythtv | |
| 16:46 | or xmbc... But I really want to test out how usable miro is for doing everything | |
| 16:46 | * willkg | nods. |
| 16:47 | willkg | that miro fullscreen ui i wrote was pretty cool. but it'd need some serious updating--it's a couple of years out of date now. |
| 16:49 | but that doesn't work on windows, either. | |
| 17:36 | janetPCF: is having the "see crash report" button and being able to copy and paste the crash report into the bug useful? the bug reports are much easier to work through without multiple rounds of interaction. | |
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| 18:19 | janetPCF | I find it much much much much earier |
| 18:19 | willkg | z3p: woah! the sidebar text is uber-small now. |
| 18:20 | janetPCF | mainly when there are multiples it's easy to see if they are all the same, and also when I get one, I can quickly check whether on not I've had it before |
| 18:20 | willkg | z3p: i'm having difficulties reading it. |
| 18:20 | z3p | willkg: morganknutson wanted 13px and 11px |
| 18:20 | willkg | janetPCF: ok, cool. if there are things we can do to make it better, let me know. |
| 18:20 | z3p: px or pt? | |
| 18:20 | z3p: 11px is crazy small. | |
| 18:21 | z3p | willkg: says px in the bug |
| 18:21 | willkg: http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=16241 | |
| 18:23 | willkg | i'm a huge -1 on the new font size changes. i attached a screenshot and registered my extreme displeasure in the bug. |
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| 19:03 | willkg | afk a bit... |
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| 19:51 | willkg | bendk, glee: i need some advice.... i'm working on bug 16275. what's going on is that Miro goes to pickle the UpdateConfigCommand which has the key MoviesDirectory and the value of a directory on disk. |
| 19:52 | bendk, glee: the problem is that the directory value is a miro.fileobject.FilenameType which is not pickleable because it has instance methods bound to instance attributes. | |
| 19:53 | bendk, glee: so... i'm not sure what to do. is there a way to tell pickle not to pickle specific attributes? | |
| 19:53 | bendk | yes |
| 19:53 | z3p | willkg: you want __getstate__ |
| 19:53 | willkg | z3p: awesome--that's what i was looking for. |
| 19:53 | z3p | willkg: and optionally __setstate__ |
| 19:53 | bendk | that one was easy :) taking a shower, afk for a bit |
| 19:58 | willkg | yay--fixed! |
| 19:59 | i'm so glad i was able to git bisect on that one. i never would have figured that out otherwise. | |
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| 20:17 | z3p | deardiary: GTK themes aren't doing what I expect them to; why doesn't software work? |
| 20:21 | oh, I bet it's the engine's fault | |
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| 20:36 | willkg | afk for a bit to get some food. |
| 20:39 | bendk | does anyone know if we changed playlist so that they could be sorted by name, etc? |
| 20:43 | willkg | bendk: i have no clue. |
| 20:44 | bendk: i never actually use playlists (as in the sidebar playlist), so i don't really follow their functionality. | |
| 20:44 | bendk | yeah, me too |
| 20:44 | willkg | if/when miro has smart playlists, i'll probably use those. |
| 20:45 | that's another thing i'm tossing around looking into in march. | |
| 20:46 | afk for food (for realz this time). | |
| 20:58 | bendk | deardiary: fixed a bunch of bugs, moving to performance changes |
| 20:59 | willkg | deardiary: figured out causes for a couple of bugs, but haven't really fixed much today. boo. |
| 21:00 | bendk: can you take a look at 16152? any ideas on that? | |
| 21:00 | bendk | yeah, I don't really know what to do there. WindowsServer is a parrallells thing or something? |
| 21:01 | my macbook is actually dead right now until I can get to the apple store :( | |
| 21:01 | power adapter died | |
| 21:01 | I guess I should just write this in the bug :) | |
| 21:01 | willkg | that sucks! my power adapter is also dead on mine. |
| 21:02 | bendk: weirdly, miro is mentioned in the second comment here: http://askville.amazon.com/win[…]requestId=5551476 | |
| 21:03 | bendk | wow, and that's a really weird report to boot |
| 21:05 | willkg | yeah. |
| 21:20 | paulproteus: what os/linux distro is mc running on? | |
| 21:20 | paulproteus | Ubuntu 10.04 I think |
| 21:20 | willkg | ok. |
| 21:20 | so that's ... what lucid? | |
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| 21:54 | CarlFK | "mail lists are broken in the sense that the huson community has left java.net and renamed the project jenkins" |
| 21:54 | they left because they got mad at Oracle | |
| 21:58 | willkg | bendk: https://git.participatorycultu[…]ommit/?id=3bcf8f7 that breaks one of the unit tests. |
| 21:59 | bendk: http://dpaste.com/420423/ | |
| 21:59 | bendk: want me to write up a bug for it? | |
| 21:59 | bendk | I'll just fix it now |
| 21:59 | willkg | ok. |
| 22:05 | bendk | should be fixed now |
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| 22:09 | willkg | bendk: looks good to me. thanks! |
| 22:22 | bendk | interesting... |
| 22:23 | so I was looking at ways to speedup item rendering and I noticed that ngettext was taking a significant amount of time when it should be basically no time | |
| 22:23 | my first thought was "setup _ngtcache", which fails for the same reasons as before | |
| 22:24 | my next thought is that almost all of the time in gettext is spent finding/loading translations. If we keep around a GNUTranslations class, then everything is quick and we can probably get rid of all the caching code | |
| 22:25 | willkg | bendk: yup. we're using the old-school gettext stuff. i haven't had a chance to look at how you're supposed to do gettext stuff in python. |
| 22:25 | bendk | heh, GNUTranslations in new in python 2.3 :) |
| 22:25 | willkg | yup. |
| 22:25 | some parts of it are new as of 2.4. | |
| 22:26 | it's been low on my list of things to overhaul since the current system works correctly. | |
| 22:27 | i have to go make dinner, but i'll be on again later if you want to chat about it. | |
| 22:28 | bendk | I think I have it working |
| 22:28 | then I ran into an existing bug with non-english locales and I'm trying to fix that first | |
| 22:28 | I have to go too, I'll work on this more later | |
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| 22:30 | willkg | afk a bit.... |
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| 23:14 | maggie_s | paulproteus: hi! |
| 23:15 | paulproteus: I'm looking into #16156 (theme licensing info) | |
| 23:15 | paulproteus | Great |
| 23:15 | maggie_s | paulproteus: looks like maggie-dot does not have the latest theme changes yet, right? |
| 23:16 | paulproteus | Yeah, I just just floyd-dev has that change. I'm not sure it's anywhere. |
| 23:17 | maggie_s | paulproteus: is it possible to upload the new themes to dev servers for testing purposes? |
| 23:18 | paulproteus | Yes, but sadly not right now. Leave a note on the ticket and I will do it first thing in the morning. |
| 23:18 | maggie_s | paulproteus: OK |
| 23:18 | jamessan` is now known as jamessan | |
| 23:19 | maggie_s | paulproteus: then, there's the ticket with no-enforce mode and a bunch of tickets that require enforce mode to be imposed |
| 23:19 | zanoi | anyone know which commit it was that makes miro crash on selecting playlists? |
| 23:19 | maggie_s | paulproteus: are we going to try and test the no-enforce bug today? |
| 23:20 | paulproteus | I didn't time today well to have you test anything new. Sorry! |
| 23:20 | Anything you need me to change something for, please REOPEN and I will make it testable by tomorrow. | |
| 23:20 | For now I have to run out in a sec. | |
| 23:21 | maggie_s | paulproteus: it's ok, but in this case is it possible to set maggie-dot to enforce mode then? for a while |
| 23:21 | paulproteus | Or, rather, I haven't been thinking about testability. )-: |
| 23:21 | maggie_s: Yes | |
| 23:21 | maggie_s | paulproteus: great, thank you! |
| 23:21 | paulproteus | done |
| 23:21 | ajonas | maggie_s: i can also give you a login on floyd-dev if you want |
| 23:21 | paulproteus | Note that you were just toggled into the enforce state, so if you were exceeding limits, then it won't push you into the limits |
| 23:22 | maggie_s | ajonas: thanks a lot, that would be great! |
| 23:22 | ajonas | maggie_s: i'm not sure what will happen if you go plus or less |
| 23:23 | maggie_s | paulproteus: should be back to normal, once I've switched the tiers for the first time, right? |
| 23:23 | paulproteus | Yeah, think so |
| 23:23 | maggie_s | paulproteus: will try it |
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| 23:23 | ajonas | maggie_s: maggie/devfloyd |
| 23:24 | oops one sec | |
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| 23:27 | zanoi | willkg: is it too late to have that discussion about magnet links? |
| 23:30 | maggie_s | paulproteus: oops, looks like there's an error every time I try to change the tier |
| 23:30 | paulproteus | Wow, yeah. |
| 23:30 | I see that here, too. | |
| 23:30 | File it. )-: | |
| 23:30 | I have to run for now! | |
| 23:32 | maggie_s | paulproteus: OK, see you later! |
| 23:40 | ajonas | i'm off too - night all! |
| 23:40 | zanoi | night! |
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