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00:15 zanoi willkg, bendk: i'm once again back to the crashing downloader problem, but am somewhat stuck. Do you have any suggestions how I can debug the downloader?
00:15 bendk I don't have any good ones
00:15 crashing without a stacktrace is pretty bad
00:15 you can put printouts and check the downolader log
00:16 I don't know anything better than that
00:17 zanoi ok, thx
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13:57 willkg deardiary: planning out my day.  looks like a day of annoying tiny edge-case bugs.
14:18 z3p deardiary: looking into dean's device issues
14:20 willkg z3p: good luck with that.  ;)
14:26 z3p first though; need some milk, so I'm gonna do that and grab a sandwich
14:26 back in a few
14:35 bendk just pushed out a bunch of changes to list view.  Things should be way faster now.  Tell me if you see any issues.
14:35 janetPCF willkg:  bendk should we run a new set of nightlies for that?
14:36 bendk if people want to test it then yes
14:36 I know npr does.  he's pretty busy, but I guess we can make new nightlies for him
14:37 willkg bendk, janetPCF: i'll run new nightlies now, then.
14:38 janetPCF thanks - that's what I was hoping for
14:38 bendk awesome, thanks will
14:38 willkg as an aside, windows build machine hasn't hung since i consolidated everything to the primary drive and took out the second one.
14:38 janetPCF that's very cool
14:45 willkg janetPCF: new osx nightly build posted.
14:45 janetPCF great
14:46 closing out private chat and going back to main irc
14:46 * willkg nods.
14:47 willkg deardiary: working on new nightlies and doing updates on linux build box.
14:47 janetPCF: new windows nightly build posted.
14:56 janetPCF z3p:  did Dean give you a bug or crash reports? I see them in bogondeflector and can create or append to a bug
14:58 z3p janetPCF: no, he filed a bunch of bugs
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15:27 willkg janetPCF: pushed a new source tarball.
15:34 paulproteus BTW all, I'm going afk for 1.5h to find a bus to New York. Talk to y'all from South Station or the bus or NYC.
15:43 willkg janetPCF: the dev menu will be available in released versions, but the user has to run miro in debugmode.
15:43 janetPCF ok
15:43 willkg janetPCF: does that change your priority setting for bug 16342?
15:44 paulproteus: have fun!
15:44 janetPCF not really - clahey implemented that back when the whole db was a giant pickle and there was no way to see what was in there
15:45 I don't think I've even used it since - because you can use a FF extension to see all the db contents, and it's more easy to read
15:46 willkg janetPCF: ok.  if it's not something we use anymore, we should nix the functionality.
15:46 ajonas paulproteus: have a good trip!
15:46 janetPCF I was just typing that willkg
15:46 willkg :)
15:47 i'll send an email to develop to see if anyone uses it.  if not, i'll remove the menu item and the video search "let's dump dtv database..." thing.
15:47 janetPCF the only reason I tested it today is because there was a bogon crash report from mystery user David
15:47 * willkg nods.
15:47 janetPCF I sent david+stoll an email to see if he is the mystery tester
15:47 * willkg nods.
16:19 willkg bendk: i'm tossing around removing the dumpDatabase code altogether.  any reason why it should stick around given that it's broken and we're using sqlite now?
16:20 bendk nope
16:20 willkg ok.  i'm going to remove it now, then.
16:23 and now it's gone.
16:29 afk to get some more coffee....
17:24 z3p deardiary: looks like device databases have been broken for quite some time
17:29 willkg z3p: would that explain why every time i plug in my external drive, it seems to do an import-from-scratch kind of thing?
17:29 * paulproteus is on a bus.
17:29 willkg paulproteus: yay!
17:32 z3p willkg: yep
17:32 willkg: but it's fixed now
17:37 paulproteus deardiary: Handling PayPal IPN postback
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17:51 willkg z3p: sorry about that.  i noticed that behavior a day or two ago, but figured it was doing what it was supposed to be doing.
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17:53 z3p willkg: I only noticed it because it wasn't remembering when I selected my device type
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19:45 ajonas paulproteus: on floyd-dev, hitting "switch to this" take me to paypal, not a warning page. is that just intermediate?
19:46 paulproteus: seems like it probably is, since as you mention in a recent ticket we don't need ot send ppl to paypal for downgrades, y?
19:49 paulproteus ajonas: Yeah -- downgrades aren't currently working the way I want. I'll work on that once "basic" works the way I want.
19:50 So ajonas, now's a good time if you want to change the way warnings work.
19:50 ajonas paulproteus: ok, cool
19:50 paulproteus (I actually would rather not change the way they work; the other next-best time is post-1.2, in 1.2.1.)
19:50 ajonas paulproteus: anything in particular?
19:50 paulproteus: i'm not changing, i think, this is the same - warning when you downgrade. right?
19:52 paulproteus ajonas: You wanted people to get warnings if they'd lose theoretical things, but I want to only warn about concrete things.
19:52 ajonas paulproteus: oh yeah, that can be 1.2.1, not that worried about it
19:55 z3p whoops, turns out a padding mistake can crash your window manager
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19:56 paulproteus b
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20:42 zanoi we don't have any torrent DHT support in Miro right?
20:50 kcw zanoi: I don't know, but the library we use supports it
20:51 zanoi yep i know, but I can't find it being activated anywhere in miro
20:52 paulproteus deardiary: Bus Internet has been fun, but in 30 minutes I'll try to just head to PCF office in NYC (-:
20:57 zanoi O_o
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22:40 janetPCF mattjohnson:  did you see that i reopened the ie 8 widget bug?  Timeline is messed up
22:41 mattjohnson janetPCF: Yep thanks, I'll look into it.
22:41 janetPCF cool thx
22:41 signing off this machine now
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