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| 00:55 | willkg | deardiary: figured out 12748. had an epiphany while cooking fish. w00t! |
| 00:55 | time for me to jet. see you all tomorrow! | |
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| 02:19 | zanoi | deardiary: magnet links now work in file->"download item" and they work with fast resume data included |
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| 13:26 | paulproteus | Morning, all. |
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| 14:19 | z3p | good morning |
| 14:31 | glee: are you around? | |
| 14:34 | glee | z3p: Yes, what's up? |
| 14:36 | z3p | glee: I've been trying to fix the ImageSurface code on OS X |
| 14:36 | http://pastebin.com/KpGdfpWm | |
| 14:36 | the goal is that images which are too small for their area will tile | |
| 14:36 | that patch works, but flips all the images upside down | |
| 14:36 | because of the setFlipped_() call | |
| 14:37 | if I don't make that change, however, the tiling code /still/ draws upside down | |
| 14:37 | * paulproteus | watches http://nist.tv/video/18198/dyl[…]-love-cheating-an |
| 14:37 | z3p | but the other images are right-side up |
| 14:38 | glee: thoughts? | |
| 14:38 | glee | z3p: Can I download that bit of patch and have something so I can try for myself? |
| 14:38 | z3p | glee: sure; it's against master from yesterday, but should still apply |
| 14:39 | look at the currently-playing info box at the bottom; that's the most obvious place | |
| 14:39 | glee | z3p: OK hang on, one tick. |
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| 14:52 | janetPCF | thsi is brilliant today |
| 14:52 | my laptop electic connection broke the other day | |
| 14:52 | they 've been working on my internet for 3 days and it gets worse everyday | |
| 14:52 | so I cam into town to use internet | |
| 14:53 | I have the macbook with the broken backlight - and the iPad connected via vnc to use as a screen | |
| 14:54 | willkg | janetPCF: oh no! QA is using chewing gum toothpicks to keep the systems going! |
| 14:55 | janetPCF | actually today was super effective - I have a text document with about 15 bugs against devices and a bunch of test cases I wrote up for litmus |
| 14:56 | willkg | janetPCF: nice! |
| 14:57 | every time i go to work on something subtitles-related, i find more problems. it's been frustrating. | |
| 15:01 | z3p | janetPCF: more device bugs? yesterday wasn't good enough? :) |
| 15:02 | janetPCF | sorry - no internet today |
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| 15:02 | janetPCF | all devices all the time |
| 15:02 | I can't type super well like this would it be better if emial it to you? | |
| 15:04 | willkg | janetPCF: once we're past the codefreeze, we should pick a day and walk the devs through litmus tests and all the other QA things we have. |
| 15:04 | janetPCF: i know i only vaguely know about them. it'd probably be a really useful resource for testing stuff and inferring behavior. | |
| 15:06 | janetPCF | yes - and other thing is we can do daily or weekly reports so that you can actually see the test coverage we are getting |
| 15:06 | willkg | that'd be cool, too. |
| 15:06 | janetPCF | most useful during rc time |
| 15:06 | willkg | for the record, i plan to spend a bunch of time after the codefreeze on fixing BD so it doesn't suck ass, unit tests, miro user manual, and things like that. |
| 15:06 | and also ubuntu natty support. | |
| 15:07 | z3p | janetPCF: whatever's easiest for you |
| 15:07 | willkg | and the next version of fedora, too. |
| 15:07 | and get nightly unit tests running on the windows and osx build boxes. | |
| 15:07 | janetPCF | let me send it, because I can't copy/paste like this so well |
| 15:08 | the top have is a bunch of test cases, then the | |
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| 15:16 | glee | z3p: I couldn't see much other than that the setFlipped() seems to imply it only affects the drawing methods for the image. Something's definitely up with the else: case. |
| 15:17 | z3p | glee: right, but the else case is what the documentation says to do for tiling |
| 15:17 | glee | z3p: Yeah I know, that's standard stuff |
| 15:18 | willkg | yay! my macbook power adapter came. i can compile the sandbox again! |
| 15:21 | z3p | janetPCF: wow, things seem rough on OS X |
| 15:22 | janetPCF | yes |
| 15:22 | z3p | and I thought windows was the crummy platform |
| 15:22 | willkg | afk a bit to play with my new toys, get some coffee, and get ready for a dev call. |
| 15:23 | janetPCF | only parts I didn"t get to today is sync podcats playlist options |
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| 15:38 | CarlFK | can whoever admins the unisub pivotal accept Carl Mayer's so he can input some issues |
| 15:47 | glee | z3p: http://developer.apple.com/lib[…]otes/Cocoa/AppKit.html (search for setFlipped) |
| 15:53 | z3p | glee: thanks |
| 16:00 | willkg | that was a very short dev call. working on notes right now. |
| 16:03 | dev call notes: http://bluesock.org/~willg/blo[…]all_20110223.html | |
| 16:14 | z3p | http://bit.ly/mirodevicehelp |
| 16:19 | willkg | z3p: might want to add a "url to the device specifications" field that's not required. |
| 16:20 | zanoi | z3p: nice, it's a bit of a strange mix of english and swedish here though |
| 16:20 | z3p | zanoi: huh? |
| 16:20 | zanoi | some words are in swedish |
| 16:20 | because google apparently localizes them | |
| 16:20 | willkg | z3p: also, i'd separate the media paths into two separate fields. |
| 16:21 | z3p | zanoi: neat... |
| 16:21 | zanoi | it's not too bad though, just a few words |
| 16:21 | z3p | willkg: they're not necessarily different paths, but I can split it up |
| 16:21 | janetPCF | that looks cool - I'll post to testing, and stuff when I get home |
| 16:22 | willkg | z3p: i'd split it up. i think we're partially targeting this for non technical people, so having separate fields pushes them to give us the data we want in the format we need it in. |
| 16:22 | z3p | willkg: true |
| 16:22 | willkg | like mr. bean. |
| 16:22 | what would mr. bean do with this form? | |
| 16:22 | z3p | willkg: freak out because they have to use system applications they've probably never used |
| 16:24 | willkg | heh. |
| 16:26 | zanoi | afk for a while to eat and shovel snow |
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| 16:35 | willkg | afk a smidge for lunch. |
| 16:39 | bendk | okay, taking a brunch break |
| 16:39 | paulproteus | (howdy all, from the office) |
| 16:39 | (I like going to this office) | |
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| 17:24 | zanoi | is the patch for running several instances of miro in master? |
| 17:25 | z3p | zanoi: ./run.sh --ignore-onetime |
| 17:25 | zanoi | thx |
| 17:27 | willkg | paulproteus: i'm going through the "run your own mc site" instructions and just did "python manage.py syncdb". it's asking "you just installed django's auth system which means you don't have any superusers defined. would you like to create one now?" should i say yes or no? |
| 17:28 | paulproteus: the instructions don't say anything about it and i have no idea what the ramifications of either answer are. | |
| 17:28 | paulproteus | I *think* a good answer is "Yes", but there's a 25% chance that will be slightly catastrophic. |
| 17:28 | I would like you to answer "Yes", and if it works, good, we should document that that's the thing to do. | |
| 17:29 | This is the web username/password you'll provide to your instance in order to the admin features. | |
| 17:29 | willkg | the django admin features or the mc admin features? |
| 17:29 | paulproteus | Both! Crazy, right! |
| 17:29 | (really just the MC ones) | |
| 17:29 | willkg | heh. ok. |
| 17:29 | paulproteus | (but we piggy-back off the Django admin in terms of permissions) |
| 17:30 | willkg | i'll update the docs. |
| 17:30 | paulproteus | Make sure it does what I think first, before updating them. |
| 17:30 | And thank you. | |
| 17:31 | willkg | paulproteus: definitely. |
| 17:32 | paulproteus: next question... so i answered yes and filled in some info. then it did some stuff and then errored out on this: http://dpaste.com/441721/ | |
| 17:33 | paulproteus: there's a note in the docs about maybe you want to comment out South, but i don't think this is a South issue. | |
| 17:33 | paulproteus | Okay, that's the explosion that is the thing I feared with 25% likelihood. |
| 17:33 | Are you using "master"? | |
| 17:33 | willkg | yes. |
| 17:35 | paulproteus | I can push a fix for this, and it's a good idea to do so. |
| 17:35 | One sec | |
| 17:35 | willkg | ok. no worries. |
| 17:35 | figured i'd just finish up this mc instance because it's been an outstanding bit of my todo list for a while and i wanted to do it before you release 1.2 so i can look at the css for the category theme. | |
| 17:42 | paulproteus | willkg: untested: http://rose.makesad.us/~paulpr[…]o-create-if.patch |
| 17:42 | can you "git am" that in, and if it works, I'll add it here? | |
| 17:42 | willkg | totally! |
| 17:42 | can i just rerun "python manage.py syncdb" or do i have to undo some things? | |
| 17:43 | paulproteus | It might have random syntax errors or worse. |
| 17:43 | You should remove your DB ("rm website.db" I think?) and then re-run syncdb | |
| 17:44 | If we fix this, everyone will be way happier. | |
| 17:45 | willkg: I can already see my patch is wrong | |
| 17:45 | One sec | |
| 17:45 | willkg | paulproteus: http://dpaste.com/441755/ |
| 17:45 | heh. :) | |
| 17:47 | paulproteus | willkg: s/NotFound/DoesNotExist/ |
| 17:47 | I *guess* I could just write a test. One sec. | |
| 17:48 | willkg | i'm testing it now. |
| 17:48 | paulproteus: new traceback: http://dpaste.com/441762/ | |
| 17:49 | paulproteus | whoaaaaaa |
| 17:49 | willkg: Okay, so in the docs: | |
| 17:49 | 1. let's say "manage.py syncdb --noinput" to skip the question | |
| 17:49 | 2. You probably have South enabled. If so (sorry to tell you this late in the game) you have to use MySQL or else the migrations don't work. | |
| 17:49 | I think it's a bug in South! Sorry!! | |
| 17:49 | (you can disable south by removing it from INSTALLED_APPS) | |
| 17:50 | 3. We should have you create a local superuser from the shell | |
| 17:50 | I want to give you a more reasonable answer by changing the code and so forth but I can't right now )-: | |
| 17:50 | willkg | that's totall fine. |
| 17:50 | my big goal right now is get an mc instance running and update the docs so the next person has an easier time. | |
| 17:50 | paulproteus | If you do that, I owe you chocolate. |
| 17:50 | willkg | all other goals can be kicked down the road for a while. |
| 17:51 | paulproteus | Not "owe" you. I personally want to give you chocolate as a humble expression of my gratitude. |
| 17:51 | willkg | heh. :) |
| 17:54 | paulproteus: how can i create a local superuser from the shell? (btw, I'm codifying this whole thing in the docs.) | |
| 17:55 | paulproteus | python manage.py shell |
| 17:55 | from django.contrib.auth.models import User | |
| 17:55 | User.objects.create(username='mister_roboto', is_superuser=True) | |
| 17:55 | u = User.objects.get(username='mister_roboto') | |
| 17:55 | u.set_password("all aboard for funtime") | |
| 17:56 | u.save() | |
| 17:56 | exit() | |
| 18:01 | willkg | paulproteus: awesome. worked super. and i updated the docs accordingly. |
| 18:02 | * willkg | marks that item off his todo list. |
| 18:02 | paulproteus | Sweetness. |
| 18:03 | willkg | now, on to more annoying things.... |
| 18:03 | deardiary: working on subtitle bugs. | |
| 18:05 | CarlFK | $ python manage.py createsuperuser |
| 18:05 | Username (Leave blank to use 'carl'): | |
| 18:05 | E-mail address: c a.com; Password: ; Password (again): |
|
| 18:05 | Superuser created successfully. | |
| 18:06 | slightly more user friendly | |
| 18:06 | willkg | CarlFK: oo--that's pretty! |
| 18:07 | everything i know about django, i learned from reading the side of a cereal box. | |
| 18:07 | CarlFK | hehe |
| 18:09 | paulproteus | CarlFK++ |
| 18:09 | You just *have* to run that post-migrations. | |
| 18:09 | But I guess that's okay. | |
| 18:10 | willkg | paulproteus: what post-migrations? |
| 18:11 | paulproteus | With MC, "createsuperuser" will explode tragically if you run it before you've run the migrations for localtv. |
| 18:11 | That's all I mean. | |
| 18:12 | willkg | right... what post-migrations? there's no post-migrations step in the docs, is there? |
| 18:12 | paulproteus | There is no such step. Don't worry about it; I think I confused you for no reason. |
| 18:13 | You appear to have all the knowledge. | |
| 18:13 | willkg | oh, whew. |
| 18:13 | yay! the new macbook power adapter allows me to run the macbook AND charge it at the same time again! | |
| 18:19 | paulproteus | Yay! |
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| 19:37 | willkg | funky. it looks like choosing a subtitle file when playing an mp4 doesn't work on osx and hasn't ever worked. but there's no bug for it and nothing in the subtitle implementation details wiki page. |
| 20:09 | paulproteus | deardiary: I *think* all the forms-related PayPal fiddly bits are fixed. |
| 20:11 | willkg | Olena-QA: you're on a roll! |
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| 20:16 | need | need help |
| 20:16 | plz | |
| 20:16 | plz | |
| 20:16 | willkg | need: what's up? |
| 20:17 | need | i need help |
| 20:17 | so importent | |
| 20:17 | willkg | need: can you explain what you need help with? |
| 20:17 | need | is there any body now how to hack fb |
| 20:17 | ? | |
| 20:17 | willkg | what is "fb"? |
| 20:18 | need | im in big problim |
| 20:18 | face book | |
| 20:18 | willkg | oh. you're on the wrong channel. this channel is about Miro, the desktop media player. |
| 20:18 | need | is there any one u know i need help |
| 20:19 | willkg | nope. |
| 20:19 | need | :( |
| 20:19 | CarlFK | http://python.mirocommunity.or[…]eering-ian-bickin fist pycon video already subtitled :) |
| 20:20 | need | is this 4 me |
| 20:20 | CarlFK | no |
| 20:20 | willkg | CarlFK: the aspect ratio looks wrong. |
| 20:20 | CarlFK | yeah, interesting |
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| 20:21 | willkg | CarlFK: otherwise it's nice! |
| 20:22 | CarlFK | yeah |
| 20:22 | Carl M (the presenter) did it | |
| 20:22 | I asked him to do it last night | |
| 20:22 | * willkg | nods. |
| 20:22 | willkg | that's awesome! |
| 20:22 | CarlFK | yeah |
| 20:22 | willkg | did you get any stats from it? like how long it took him? |
| 20:22 | CarlFK | I am trully aw stuck |
| 20:23 | I am asking :) | |
| 20:23 | * willkg | nods. |
| 20:39 | ajonas | CarlFK , willkg : i think there's a ticket for flowplayer aspect ratio problems |
| 20:40 | paulproteus came up with a fix for some of them at least | |
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| 21:24 | bendk | deardiary: fixed a bunch of crashes, moving to the rest of my P1s which are interface changes |
| 21:24 | willkg | bendk: w00t! |
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| 22:43 | zanoi | bendk, i implemented finding duplicate torrents functionality with magnet urls |
| 22:43 | but there is a problem on higher level | |
| 22:43 | if one uses file->download item it checks if the url already exists and if it does gives an error message | |
| 22:43 | but since i've only implemented magnet links on a lower level it currently won't notice on a higher level that a magnet and a torrent url refer to the same item | |
| 22:43 | so either i spend a while making more parts of miro magnet agnostic or we accept that bug for now | |
| 22:51 | bendk | zanoi: I think it's fine to leave that one in there |
| 22:51 | it's the same issue with 2 URLs pointing to the same torrent file | |
| 22:52 | zanoi | true |
| 22:55 | bendk, do you have any comments on how I should add DHT support to miro? (http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]bug.cgi?id=16346) | |
| 22:55 | should i just enable it or add stuff to the UI as well? | |
| 22:55 | bendk | I think we can always just enable DHT |
| 22:55 | zanoi | ok |
| 22:55 | bendk | You might want to make a ticket asking that to NPR, but I don't see why we wouldn't |
| 22:56 | willkg | bendk: mmm... i'd want a checkbox in the prefs. |
| 22:56 | bendk | in general we try to present less options for torrents if we can just set reasonable defaults |
| 22:56 | okay, I take it back then :) | |
| 22:56 | zanoi | heh |
| 22:56 | willkg | we have a checkbox for upnp, so i think we should have one for dht, too. |
| 22:56 | zanoi | i do see the point of both options |
| 22:57 | i'll add a checkbox then | |
| 22:57 | bendk | zanoi: I'd suggest first just making the preference and leaving the UI unimplemented |
| 22:57 | you can set config values through the command line | |
| 22:57 | zanoi | ok |
| 22:57 | bendk | then adding the UI should be an easier task -- less moving parts |
| 22:58 | willkg | bendk: pretty sure you can only set preferences that i've exposed. |
| 22:58 | you can definitely edit it with gconf-editor, though. | |
| 23:01 | zanoi | another question, isn't the browser supposed to emit 'mime-type-policy-decision-requested' when clicking on magnet links? |
| 23:01 | willkg | zanoi: depends. when you say "clicking on magnet links" what does that actually entail? is that something like <a href="magnet:....">magnet link</a> ? |
| 23:01 | zanoi | yes |
| 23:01 | willkg | or is that an http url that points to a magnet uri file? |
| 23:02 | zanoi | nope |
| 23:02 | willkg | test it out. i have no idea whether that'd work or not. |
| 23:02 | zanoi | well the problem is i did test it and it doesnøt |
| 23:02 | *doesn't | |
| 23:03 | it gives an error page saying that it can't load the link | |
| 23:03 | willkg | ok. so it could be another case of "miro supports urls, but not uris". but i'm guessing. you'd have to skim the code. |
| 23:04 | zanoi | ok, URI vs. URL bug is what I was suspecting, but wanted to know if i'm on the wrong track |
| 23:04 | willkg | unless ben knows. |
| 23:04 | afk... baby. | |
| 23:09 | bendk | zanoi: when you say browser, do you mean the GTK widget, or our cross platform browser? |
| 23:10 | I would check out should_load_url() in frontends/widgets/browser.py | |
| 23:11 | zanoi | bendk, i implement the checking in should_load_url but then found out that it's never called when clicking on magnet links |
| 23:11 | bendk | ouch |
| 23:11 | zanoi | and then i checked why, and as far as i can see it's because the signal i mentioned earlier isn't emitted |
| 23:12 | bendk | so my guess is that it's the browser wrapping code |
| 23:12 | probably most of the HTML widgets we're wrapping have a policy on which URL schemes they can work with, and magnet is not on that list | |
| 23:12 | I would say just write up a ticket for it and we can worry about it later | |
| 23:12 | zanoi | ok |
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| 23:21 | paulproteus | Hi maggie_s! |
| 23:21 | I have to jet. | |
| 23:21 | Not 'cause of you! | |
| 23:22 | maggie_s | Hi paulpproteus! |
| 23:22 | (-: | |
| 23:23 | ajonas | hi maggie_s ! |
| 23:23 | maggie_s paypal and all the attendant stuff should be mostly in shape for testing! | |
| 23:23 | maggie_s | hi ajonas! |
| 23:23 | ajonas | i am psyched, even though paypal is no fun |
| 23:24 | maggie_s | ajonas: thank you, I will try it shortly - just tried something else before attempting to downgrade (and found a problem, naturally) |
| 23:24 | ajonas | maggie_s: oh dear about the problem, but good you found it! :) |
| 23:25 | maggie_s | ajonas: :) |
| 23:34 | ajonas: can you downgrade from one paid tier to another? as I try doing it, I am taken through all the pages of Paypal transaction, but still end up stuck in the same (Max) tier after all | |
| 23:35 | ajonas | maggie_s: did you wait? it can take awhile. asheesh says 30 second, but i would say up to 1 min at least (there's a separate bug for that) |
| 23:36 | maggie_s: lemme try it, too | |
| 23:36 | maggie_s | ajonas: OK, I'll check it again in a couple of minutes |
| 23:37 | ajonas: oh, right, it did switch after all | |
| 23:37 | ajonas: going to check the bug description now... | |
| 23:38 | ajonas | let me make sure there's actually a ticket for that... if not i'll make one |
| 23:40 | yeah, it's 16362 | |
| 23:40 | maggie_s | ajonas: right, this one |
| 23:41 | ajonas: well, as a user, I'd expect some kind of a progress bar (or page) or a message telling me to wait for XX minutes for the changes to take effect | |
| 23:42 | ajonas: I'd prefer a page similar to source feed import page | |
| 23:42 | ajonas | maggie_s: i think it changing immediately is better, but that would also work, but since that would take a lot more ui, i think if we can just make it immediate, we should |
| 23:42 | and then it wouldn't need a progress bar, y'know? | |
| 23:43 | maggie_s | ajonas: if it's possible, I'm OK with that - just thought that we'd still need a response from Paypal, and that takes up time |
| 23:44 | ajonas | maggie_s: yeah, we'll see what happens with 16362 - Asheesh seemed to think it would work |
| 23:44 | maggie_s | ajonas: good |