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01:35 willkg deardiary: going to finish up the sources tab display and then calling it a night.
01:35 bye all!
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12:23 paulproteus Morning, all.
12:24 deardiary: I think I beat willkg online for the morning.
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13:46 z3p good morning
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13:58 zanoi morning
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14:30 willkg hi!
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14:41 zanoi lo!
14:44 z3p deardiary: titlebar stuff
14:44 willkg deardiary: fixing the button on the source panel.
14:45 z3p: so titlebarbutton requires an image.  do we have a version of that which doesn't require an image?  if not, i'm going to create one because i need one.
14:45 z3p willkg: I don't have a non-icon image, but other than that it doesn't
14:45 * willkg nods.
14:45 willkg ok.  i'll create one that's text-only.
14:46 z3p willkg: does someone know that the sources icon isn't transparent?
14:46 willkg z3p: the one in the display or the one in the sidebar?
14:46 z3p willkg: display
14:46 willkg z3p: i didn't know.  i don't know if someone else knows, though.
14:46 z3p willkg: I'll make a note in the bug
14:47 willkg z3p: if it's an issue, can you reopen it, too?
14:47 z3p willkg: will do
14:47 willkg oh, actually, i think i already reopened it.
14:47 nevermind.
14:48 z3p willkg: you did :)
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15:03 willkg deardiary: finished up some ui bits on two bugs.  now for coffee and morning ritual.
15:03 z3p: i was very sneaky and used the titlebar-right images, flipped them horizontally and created titlebar-left images.  then i tweaked titlebarbutton to not require an icon.
15:03 z3p willkg: ooh, nifty
15:04 willkg long live gimp!
15:05 afk for a smidge...
15:05 paulproteus deardiary: Fixing tech issues for the theme mattjohnson is working on.
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16:20 zanoi i have to run but i'll be back in some hours
16:44 kcw bendk1: could you ping me after you change letterboxing / CC me on the bug? I should make Edit Item display it the same way
16:45 willkg dev call notes: http://bluesock.org/~willg/blo[…]all_20110302.html
16:45 kcw oh, not here
16:47 willkg afk for food....
16:48 bendk1 kcw: I'm pretty sure they will be 125x125 after the change
16:49 kcw k
16:49 willkg bendk1: is that the thumbnail sizes?  if so, i should tweak the extractor scripts to resize appropriately.
16:49 bendk1 there's a bigger size for the details pane as well
16:49 but we're not sure what the final size there should be
16:49 willkg bendk1: ok.  when you figure out the appropriate size, can you write up a bug to fix the thumbnail extractors?
16:50 i do want them to align.  it'll save disk space and miro effort.
16:50 bendk1 sure
16:51 willkg ok...  afk for realz this time.
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17:36 willkg CarlFK: i figured out how to add categories to the MC feeds....  but it occurs to me it doesn't matter because there are category-specific feeds and we can use that.
17:36 CarlFK lol
17:36 willkg CarlFK: so...  i think we should use that and not worry about me implementing categories in the MC feeds.  though, i just figured out how to do it and it's like 5 lines of code.
17:37 CarlFK willkg:  i lost track of what's going on with importing vids from blip quicker
17:37 willkg CarlFK: so i'm going to create this bug, but put it at a low priority.  then i'll work on it at some point in the future and probably also spend some time looking at what other metadata should be in the feeds.
17:37 CarlFK good plan
17:38 willkg CarlFK: also, i'm thinking we should move pmc stuff to another channel.
17:38 CarlFK grumble... I am out of space fore more tabs :)
17:38 willkg heh.  :)
17:38 CarlFK you call - i can cope
17:38 willkg well, i vote we not worry about it right now, but keep it in our minds for the future if we get too spammy.
17:39 CarlFK good plan :)
17:39 willkg paulproteus: ^^^  the gist of it is that i'm going to create a bug for adding category metadata to the feeds, but i don't need it for 1.2, so i'll work on it some other day.
17:39 paulproteus (-: Okay
17:40 willkg paulproteus: it's bug 16506.
17:41 paulproteus Thanks, I see it now.
17:41 willkg paulproteus: took me about 5 minutes to find the right code and another 10 minutes to figure out how the feed stuff worked.
17:41 paulproteus: so, that was cool.
17:41 deardiary: working on the stores display now.
18:01 janetPCF: i'm so psyched you're writing up behavior/design docs.  that helps sooo much.
18:01 janetPCF It will help us all in the long run - for bugs, testcases, and the old, 'now what was that supposed to do?'
18:02 willkg absolutely.
18:02 janetPCF plus it forces me to think about these new features and what needs to be tested now
18:03 willkg kcw: the widgetstateconstantstest is failing.
18:03 kcw: want me to create a bug?
18:04 kcw: looks like there's a date-added that is in one list, but not the other.
18:05 kcw willkg: yeah; that's bug 16491
18:06 willkg kcw: mmm...  i'm puzzled.  this says you added a unittest.  is that the test that's failing?
18:06 kcw willkg: it's assigned to Geoffrey, :m #miro-hackers willkg: yeah; the bug's assigned to Geoffrey, but he's not online and it's a three-line fix, so I'm going to steal it from him and just fix it now
18:07 willkg kcw: ok.  thanks!
18:07 as a side note, we shouldn't be checking in failing unit tests.  it muddies up the point of having unit tests.
18:08 i just made changes, ran the unit tests to see if my changes caused problems, and one was failing.  so then i spend time trying to figure out how my changes caused that failure.  but then it turns out it wasn't my changes at all.
18:08 which is just a waste of my time.
18:09 and now i'm thinking of Al Pacino in Heat.
18:13 kcw willkg: sorry about that. fixed in master.
18:13 willkg no worries.  i got to think about al pacino for a while, so that was nice.
18:19 afk...  5 minute break.
18:19 z3p deardiary: back to Windows, which never fails to annoy the bejeezus out of me
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19:04 Sergeiqa Janet: Hi Janet,
19:04 Could not convert file fireworks_prank.avi
19:04 'Failed: Error while opening encoder for output stream #0.1 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height' sign appeared
19:04 What do you think  there is problem with file?
19:05 janetPCF Hi Sergeiqa -
19:06 I do think that particular file may be problematic - but it would be good to try it manually too, or with MVC
19:06 Sergeiqa OK
19:06 janetPCF there was a problem before where Miro would stop when it encounted a file problem but ffmpeg could have continued
19:06 I thought that was fixed already
19:07 easiest would be to get mirovideoconverter.com and try  the file with that -
19:08 or you can try to run ffmpeg from the command line with the same conversion command - you'll see the command in the conversion log file at the top
19:08 willkg:  here's a link to a quick doc of the Sources tab - http://develop.participatorycu[…]x.php/Sources-tab
19:09 you should let me know if it covers what you were expecting. - I did the easiest first
19:09 Sergeiqa downloading converter will check
19:10 janetPCF back in a bit - I need to go start a fire before the kids get home
19:10 thanks Sergeiqa
19:10 I do think that file is messed up - but if the other mpeg conversions fail - then it could be the miro bug
19:11 Sergeiqa will see
19:11 janetPCF Here is the bug for that: http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=15442
19:11 if you retest that bug too, and mark it verified if it works - and needs-litmus flag so we can make a specific test.
19:12 Sergeiqa OK
19:13 willkg janetPCF: that looks awesome.
19:13 janetPCF: i only skimmed it, though.  i'll read it more carefully later.
19:14 janetPCF that's fine - I figure it's the basic outline I'll follow for each tab.
19:15 and I skipped spelling out the rules for download, torrent and rss detection
19:16 * willkg nods.
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19:49 willkg bendk1: how's it going with the ui standard view thing (or whatever we're calling it now)?
19:49 bendk1 it's getting there
19:49 I'm guessing an hour or so
19:50 * willkg nods.
19:51 bendk1 looking semi-sweet
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21:24 janetPCF Sergeiqa:  good catch on that conversion bug
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21:44 willkg deardiary: working on the stores display.
21:45 i'm doing the work on windows, so i'm only sort of paying attention here.
21:54 janetPCF Sergeiqa:  can you double check the  logs you attached and make sure you get the one for the fireworks viideo?
22:11 bendk1 okay, really close on the main UI updates, for realz now
22:11 willkg bendk1: w00t!
22:12 i'm almost done the stores display.  i'm re-using the prefpanel widget.  whoever did that code should get a gold star for trivial reusability.
22:12 i think it was z3p.
22:24 zanoi back
22:27 Sergeiqa janet: i put converted log files for bug 15442
22:27 about yes men movie : http://vodo.net/yesmen
22:27 but Will said it another new bug so I will do it
22:27 I couldn't convert fireworks video with MVC too
22:27 I converted it only to MP4 but output file without audio ...
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22:31 willkg deardiary: finished up stores display--testing it on osx.
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22:46 willkg afk for a bit to cook dinner.
22:46 i predict i'll eat it as well.
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23:52 willkg bendk: did you see my email about the activate signal?
23:53 bendk: am i crazy or is it not quite right on osx?
23:53 (or both)

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