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10:37 Topic for #miro-hackers is now Miro and MiroCommunity.org developers channel -- Got a bug?  Have the ticket number ready.  Nightlies at http://nightlies.pculture.org/ .  | Channel is logged, "/msg SNAILBot help" for more info.
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12:40 paulproteus willkg: Morning. I'm deploying your CSS patch.
12:40 willkg paulproteus: it's maggie's.  maggie is the awesome.
12:41 all i did was put it in patch format.
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12:50 paulproteus (-:
12:54 willkg srsly.  mattjohnson and i were all like, "well, it's a problem but ie sucks."  but maggie didn't give up!  maggie poked around, figured out the problems between two builds of IE8, worked out a fix, and sent it in.
12:54 hrm...  maybe it wasn't mattjohnson and i.  maybe it was just me.  i forget who was involved.
12:55 deardiary: up to 80 P1 bugs now.
12:56 deardiary: working on P1 ui bugs, then a dentist appointment, then need to get my inr checked.
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13:39 willkg janetPCF: re: 16596 (drm context menu thingy), can you put the file somewhere and then i'll toss it in my test/ web-site thing?
13:39 janetPCF: also, at some point p, we should merge my test/ web-site thing with yours and/or make an official QA one if there isn't one already.
13:40 janetPCF sure
13:40 willkg janetPCF: you rock!
13:40 janetPCF you have no idea how I'm am rockin today!!!!
13:40 my sister made me download Gaga (for the kids)
13:41 willkg gaga?  what's that?
13:41 janetPCF after she gave me her Amazon account so I can test downloading inside Miro
13:41 as in Lady?
13:41 willkg oh...  yeah, i keep hearing about her, but i don't know anything about her except that i saw the Lady Gaga Glee episode.
13:42 and, yes, i keep up on my pop culture references through Glee now.
13:42 janetPCF yeah well as far as I know glee is a miro dev on irc
13:43 willkg oh, that's funny.  i forgot about that.
13:43 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glee_%28TV_series%29
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14:21 paulproteus You guys are amazing.
14:21 It's like a race to bottom, competing on lack of knowledge of pop culture.
14:21 I'm amused to learn that I'm not winning.
14:23 z3p morning
14:25 willkg it's funny...  as time goes on, pop culture becomes less and less relevant to my life.
14:26 knowing the top ten singles doesn't help me fix bugs (as far as i know--i don't know the top ten singles, so i'm technically not in a position to make this statement).
14:26 paulproteus Unless it makes you more likely to go out and drink, which makes you more relaxed at home.
14:27 Unrelated: I think I did something horrible with circular imports in localtv, but I haven't figured it out yet, but I have worked around it, but back.
14:28 but *gack*
14:28 willkg possibly.  it also increases the likelihood that i'll code while drunk.  i have a lot of data points that suggest that's always bad for me.
14:28 circular imports are tricky.
14:28 paulproteus Oh, I have lots of data that suggest it's good for me.
14:28 Er, and for the code, too.
14:28 willkg that's awesome!
14:29 version control ameliorates some of the bad effects of coding while drunk.
14:30 i'm working on my windows machine, so ...  only sort of paying attention for a while.
14:39 paulproteus b
15:00 janetPCF paulproteus:  I think my days of pop culture and drinking have long since passed my by.  Confirmed over the the New Year when my sister and I were playing pool and listening to Dusty Springfield.  We both just plain sucked shit - and we used to be so good.
15:01 z3p deardiary: more UI bugs
15:01 janetPCF who knows - maybe it was the music - but simply - we did not come prepared, 'cause it's just not the priority anymore.  so so sad
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15:14 paulproteus Now I am on a train.
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16:10 z3p deardiary: trying to make things pixel-exact over multiple platforms sucks; I'm working on something else for a bit
16:20 deardiary: actually no, I guess I'm still going to deal with pixels
16:22 willkg z3p: i'm so sorry, dude.
16:22 z3p: when 4.0 is done, i'll send you chocolate.
16:24 z3p willkg: I appreciate the thought :)
16:24 eventually we'll be all done with the UI and can just fix bugs
16:24 willkg possibly.
16:24 z3p willkg: for this release, I mean
16:25 willkg true.  i suspect this will be like the last couple of releases where at some point we just draw a line and say, "the ui is getting overhauled no more!"
16:25 z3p it might be getting to that point; one of my bugs is probably a big time commitment
16:26 willkg if anything is over half a day to implement, make a huge note of it in the bug.
16:26 z3p I did
16:26 well, not huge, but it got its own paragraph
16:26 willkg plus, feel free to demand chocolate.  "if you really want me to implement this, it will cost 2 bars of chocolate."
16:28 one of the nice things about us all working on ui stuff is that i'm not seeing unit test failures anymore.  ;)
16:34 z3p haha
16:34 just wait until we have tests for the UI though
16:35 holy cow those things are flaky
16:36 willkg i'm pretty sure janetPCF's work with sikuli will give us a lot of ui test abilities.
16:38 z3p hopefully the technology has improved since 2002
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17:38 cola380 hello
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18:17 z3p morganknutson: can you look at http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]g.cgi?id=16559#c4 this afternoon?
18:21 willkg deardiary: working on bug #16114.
18:22 janet_ back from infinity and beyond, welcome sedat
18:23 morganknutson hey z3p, is that in the nightly?
18:24 z3p morganknutson: no, I made some changes this AM though.  the comment is questions for you
18:27 morganknutson z3p: ok
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18:37 willkg not sure who declared it "spam the wiki day", but whoever did it, if i find out and meet them, i'm going to waggle my finger in disgust.
18:48 sedat hi janet_ this is the only miro channel now?
18:49 janet_ pretty much - #miro still exists - but there is more action here
18:49 willkg:  let's just beat the tar out of them
18:56 willkg janet_: drm items go in Misc, right?
18:56 also, it's weird.  when i select an item in the list view, i can't read any of the text.
18:56 is that me?  am i doing something wrong?
18:59 sedat janet_: clicking through the tabs in preferences is expected to crash miro?
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18:59 janet_ sedat: today it does if you click the Folders tab
18:59 I think the others are OK
19:00 sedat nah, stores too
19:00 janet_ oh - nice
19:00 sedat and extensions
19:00 willkg it's probably all the ones that have tableviews.
19:00 someone probably changed the tableview implementation and it broke the preference tabs.
19:01 sedat sorry, kinda new at this
19:01 willkg sedat: really?  ...  i thought you were the sedat that hung out here a lot a whiel back.  no?
19:03 sedat i am, but so long ago i don't know what is going on
19:03 willkg oh, ok.
19:08 dentist appointment.   see you all in a few hours.
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19:09 sedat oh well, i'll spend some time when things settle down, and keyboard skipping is back
19:13 janet_ sedat: cmd +left , right for skipping
19:15 sedat skips no more. mean 10 secs or so, not next
19:15 janet_ shift + left, right
19:16 30 forward, 15 back
19:18 sedat oh no, that's not going to work for me. i'd just go crazy forgetting and being thrown around
19:18 janet_ if that's the case - you better speak now -
19:19 http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=16228
19:19 sedat don't know what's new/intentional so wasn't
19:21 janet_ this is current: https://develop.participatoryc[…]KeyboardShortcuts
19:21 sedat ah, so it's intended right still, just temporarily broken
19:25 i having it one way for music/audio, another for podcasts/video acceptable?
19:26 ïs
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23:14 z3p Oneiric Ocelot? I can barely spell that looking at the blog post
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23:31 willkg z3p: yeah...  i think that's another reason i'm going to switch to debian.
23:43 z3p I guess I haven't really typed maverick or natty, but I know that I can if I need to
23:43 also, I can't think of natty and /not/ associate it with beer first
23:47 willkg z3p: maybe we should start naming miro releases after beer nicknames.  Miro 4.0 could be Miro 4.0: Natty Light.
23:48 kcw_ that's kind of harsh
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23:48 z3p little known fact: there is also a natty heavy
23:48 willkg no way!  i had no idea!
23:49 kcw it's made with deutrium
23:49 s/tr/ter/
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23:53 paulproteus Howdy danjared_ (-:
23:54 danjared_ hi!
23:54 paulproteus (all: danjared_ is a friend of mine who might be interested in squashing some MC bugs)
23:54 Latley, danjared_, I should warn you, I have been ruining the code left and right thinking, "I'll clean this up after we ship MC 1.2".
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23:55 paulproteus s/Latly/Lately/
23:55 danjared: http://develop.participatorycu[…]ro_Community_site was recently cleaned-up by willkg. Probably worth a look.

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