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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:02 | paulproteus | maggie_s: Hello. I broke a bunch of dev server sites. |
| 00:03 | maggie_s | paulproteus: Hi! I surely noticed that. However, the tiers/PayPal related stuff still works, so I can test something |
| 00:04 | paulproteus: Just wanted to ask something... | |
| 00:04 | paulproteus | Please. |
| 00:05 | On my queue for the day: Finish fixing bulk edit, I hope, and then work on the theme that mattjohnson was preparing. | |
| 00:05 | And chatting here (-: | |
| 00:06 | maggie_s | paulproteus: When I manually cancel some of the PayPal recurring payments, some of those end up marked as Cancelled in the Overview list, and some are still Completed (but marked as Cancelled on the Details page) |
| 00:06 | paulproteus: why could it happen? | |
| 00:06 | paulproteus | Two answers. |
| 00:07 | 1. I'm not really sure, but I'm happy they're "cancelled". | |
| 00:07 | 2. There's a difference between the recurring payment *profile* and individual payments that are part of the recurring payment plan. | |
| 00:07 | Maybe that's the difference you're seeing. | |
| 00:09 | maggie_s | paulproteus: For example, Profile ID No. I-FXLDE0D5093M |
| 00:09 | paulproteus: It's Completed in the list, but Canceled in the Details | |
| 00:11 | paulproteus | I'm not sure. I can look more into it tonight, but it's probably just PayPal internal weirdness. |
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| 00:12 | maggie_s | paulproteus: OK, I just wanted to be sure I didn't break anything by mistake (: |
| 00:12 | paulproteus | (-: |
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| 01:21 | willkg | paulproteus: you're awesome! |
| 01:21 | paulproteus: i eagerly look forward to using bulk edit again. | |
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| 04:43 | danjared | hrm, it looks like http://git.participatorycultur[…]/requirements.txt has some unresolved conflicts |
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| 11:48 | paulproteus | danjared: Er, yes, I agree with you. |
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| 15:25 | z3p | good morning |
| 15:27 | willkg | morning. |
| 15:27 | deardiary: working on "add watched folder" dialog. almost done, i think. | |
| 15:28 | deardiary: also, got trolled on #miro and threatened with bad blog publicity. | |
| 15:31 | deardiary: plus it's "spam the wiki" day again for the seventh day in a row. wish someone would have told me--i would have brought beer to the party. | |
| 16:17 | zanoi | morning |
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| 16:19 | paulproteus | willkg: Sorry about LargePrime there. |
| 16:19 | bendk | hey all |
| 16:21 | willkg | paulproteus: not your fault. he was asking for help, i helped, but then i hit a point where i couldn't help anymore. then he turned that into this big bru-ha-ha. |
| 16:21 | paulproteus | Mornin' |
| 16:21 | willkg | but honestly, it sucked. i don't like interactions like that. |
| 16:21 | paulproteus | willkg: One problem is that it's really hard for me to figure out how to ignore people on IRC (programmatically) |
| 16:21 | * willkg | nods. |
| 16:21 | paulproteus | Ignore uses this hostmask nonsense that I never cared about learning. |
| 16:21 | Ooh, it looks easy in Quassel, though. | |
| 16:22 | willkg: I'm going to try ignoring you; start saying things | |
| 16:22 | willkg | heh. |
| 16:22 | paulproteus | psst say something |
| 16:22 | willkg | he's going to write a blog entry about me, though. |
| 16:22 | part of me is curious as to what it says. | |
| 16:23 | it's a good thing the channel is logged. i went back through the logs to see if he was right that i was being an ass, but i don't think i was. | |
| 16:23 | i did sigh a few times, though. | |
| 16:23 | probably sighed more than i should have. but it was very sigh-inducing. | |
| 16:23 | paulproteus | Sweet, ignore works great. |
| 16:23 | willkg | my favorite part is when he says, "i'm going to stay on the channel to see how you treat other people." |
| 16:26 | i tossed around saying, "oh, i see the problem. this channel isn't for arguments. i think you want #miro-arguement-clinic." | |
| 16:26 | ajonas | morning paulproteus |
| 16:27 | paulproteus | Howdy ajonas. I ran out of time yesterday before hitting the POV stuff, so that's the top of my agenda right now. |
| 16:27 | ajonas | paulproteus: perfect, thanks |
| 16:30 | willkg | glee1, z3p: i just saw the last comment in that chrome ui ticket (16285). |
| 16:31 | z3p: are you able to implement that in the next couple of days? | |
| 16:31 | if not, glee1 can you take it? if we're going to do it, it needs to get done as soon as we can. | |
| 16:31 | z3p | willkg: me? no. it sounds like glee1 could. |
| 16:31 | willkg | ok. |
| 16:32 | glee1: ^^^ can you take 16285 and do that top chrome thing? | |
| 16:32 | glee1 | The chrome top should be fairly easy hopefully, I don't know about the other parts, but I can go dig in |
| 16:32 | willkg | glee1: thank you! |
| 16:32 | z3p | glee1: thanks! |
| 16:33 | willkg | glee1: i don't know what else is on your plate, but this ui overhaul stuff probably trumps it. |
| 16:34 | glee1 | There are a couple of things, but mostly stopped what I am doing to see what it's like to use 4.0 to find issues with my use cases |
| 16:34 | * willkg | nods. |
| 16:34 | glee1 | But yeah I think the UI is pretty important |
| 16:35 | z3p | deardiary: dealing with cookies |
| 16:35 | willkg | the ui overhaul stuff takes precedence because the iterations between devs and designers take a long time and we need to finish it off. |
| 16:40 | bendk: how're you doing on ui overhaul mini-deadline stuff? | |
| 16:40 | bendk | I'm working through it |
| 16:40 | I was really hoping to skip the playlist order stuff, but npr wanted it | |
| 16:40 | I'm almost done with that right now | |
| 16:41 | * willkg | nods. |
| 16:41 | bendk | my guess is I probably won't get through with my list, but I'm not sure |
| 16:41 | willkg | bendk: is the playlist order stuff in the ui mini-deadline? |
| 16:41 | shit. i sneezed and scared the bejesus out of the baby again. | |
| 16:41 | afk a while.... | |
| 16:42 | paulproteus | deardiry: http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=16620 is so bizarre. |
| 16:42 | deardiary: http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=16620 is bizarre. | |
| 16:42 | bendk | it was in the email I sent in response |
| 16:42 | paulproteus | deardiary: Now that the bulk edit page loads quickly, unlike before, everyone will figure out that it takes forever to *save* that page. )-: |
| 16:44 | ajonas | paulproteus: does saving work? |
| 16:44 | paulproteus | It works just as well as before, which is to say that for big sites, it has a 25-50% failure rate, or so, I think. |
| 16:45 | I think it has to do with the backend needlessly regenerating thumbnails for videos that have not changed. | |
| 16:45 | ajonas | paulproteus: ok... i'm not sure we really solved the central problem, then. but we an worry about that next, i guess. |
| 16:49 | bendk | zanoi: how's your schedule looking? |
| 16:50 | zanoi | bendk, not good, progress has been way to slow |
| 16:50 | *too | |
| 16:50 | bendk | are you still working on magnet links? |
| 16:50 | zanoi | (with magnet links that is) |
| 16:51 | yes, i had a little detour but now i'm back at magnet links | |
| 16:51 | even more metadata issues have popped up, but i think it will be solved soon | |
| 16:52 | i'm really annoyed about it though | |
| 16:54 | bendk, what are your plans regarding bug 16398 | |
| 16:55 | bendk | work on it after the ui deadline :) |
| 16:55 | I'm mostly confident that we can make it work | |
| 16:55 | zanoi | any ideas how? |
| 16:55 | bendk | however, I definitely have been confident about browser stuff before and been wrong |
| 16:55 | XUL-fu and webkit-fu :) | |
| 16:56 | it's never totally straightforward | |
| 16:56 | I'm guessing though that the issue is that we need to tell the browser to accept the magnet: "URI scheme" | |
| 16:56 | zanoi | probably |
| 16:57 | it's a bit sad that it doesn't look that up in gconf | |
| 16:58 | since gnome has supported protocols in gconf, and firefox looks there | |
| 17:00 | willkg | zanoi: i didn't do anything to hook that up. so it's possible that we just have to implement that code. |
| 17:00 | zanoi | willkg, i get the same error when clicking on magnet links in epiphany-webkit |
| 17:01 | willkg | they may not have hooked it up either. |
| 17:01 | zanoi | yes, that might very well be |
| 17:04 | our whole download system is *so* not made for magnet links :/ | |
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| 17:59 | willkg | bendk: thank you sooo much for fixing that tableview thingy. |
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| 18:00 | willkg | z3p: how're you doing on ui-mini-deadline stuff? |
| 18:00 | z3p | willkg: I should have the connect pane stuff finished by EOD |
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| 18:00 | willkg | z3p: you rock! |
| 18:00 | bendk: how're you doing on ui-mini-deadline stuff? | |
| 18:01 | bendk | I have these left: |
| 18:01 | 16332 Make download/cancel feel faster | |
| 18:01 | 16228 Improve keyboard interface for 4.0 without spending a lot of effort | |
| 18:01 | 16433 Allow user to set priority for/not download files | |
| 18:01 | plus rework on the ui updates / item details pane | |
| 18:01 | willkg | bendk: ok. |
| 18:01 | bendk | a bunch of things, but I think I can get through almost all of them |
| 18:01 | willkg | ok. |
| 18:01 | can you prioritize the ui overhaul ones? | |
| 18:02 | the hope is to have a nightly tomorrow that morgan and nick can pick apart so they can create more ui tweak tickets. | |
| 18:02 | bendk | sure |
| 18:02 | willkg | those other bugs are ui related, but don't help reduce our develop -> design -> develop iteration cycles. |
| 18:03 | er, except 16433. | |
| 18:03 | that's important, too. | |
| 18:03 | that requires new ui stuff, right? | |
| 18:04 | bendk: ^^^ | |
| 18:04 | bendk | yeah |
| 18:04 | willkg | ok. that one should be high priority, too, then. |
| 18:07 | bendk | is anyone else seeing this error a lot lately? |
| 18:07 | Fatal Python error: PyEval_SaveThread: NULL tstate | |
| 18:07 | it's really annoying for my devolopment, if it's annoying for others I can try to fix | |
| 18:08 | willkg | mmm... no. i don't think i've ever seen that. |
| 18:09 | bendk: you're the only one running lucid, though. | |
| 18:09 | bendk | it might be newly introduced |
| 18:09 | kcw | bendk: yeah; I've been seeing that starting some time later than 954cf076. |
| 18:11 | bendk | ahh, I think I have an idea |
| 18:27 | okay, the NULL tstate should be fixed in the current master | |
| 18:27 | sorry for any grief | |
| 18:27 | willkg: now I'm seriously going to get to those UI bugs, sorry for the detour | |
| 18:28 | willkg | no worries. your detour was awesome! |
| 18:33 | z3p | deardiary: all my UI tickets are done! dealing with cookies for realz this time |
| 18:41 | willkg | z3p: hooray! |
| 18:41 | z3p: i'm done, too. though i'm going to look at some other ones. | |
| 18:49 | bendk: mild rain on your parade, but b2ad42e7 breaks the widgetstateconstantstest . | |
| 18:50 | bendk | oops, let me check that out |
| 18:51 | willkg | that test breaks a lot. i think kcw has gotten fixes for it down to 15 seconds flat. |
| 18:51 | it'd be interesting to look at that test and figure out if it's testing something useful. | |
| 18:52 | kcw | bendk: it's KEY = 'playlist' - PlaylistSort shouldn't have a key since it doesn't work like the others |
| 18:52 | willkg | afk a smidge... peeing baby. |
| 18:52 | kcw | unless it should. But I don't think it needs one. |
| 18:55 | bendk | hmm, well I want an entry in DEFAULT_COLUMN_WIDTHS |
| 18:55 | but I don't think I can have an entry in itemlist.SORT_KEY_MAP | |
| 18:55 | kcw | is there a new 'playlist' column? |
| 18:56 | bendk | yup |
| 18:56 | it's for playlists. It displays the order of the item in the playlist | |
| 18:56 | which is a weird column because it needs to track state to display things | |
| 18:56 | what about just discarding the playlist key, since it's a special case? | |
| 18:57 | in the unittest I mean | |
| 18:57 | kcw | so in a playist, there's a playlist column - and it uses the PlaylistSort only when that's the sort column? |
| 18:58 | bendk | exactly |
| 18:58 | also when that column is the sort column, we enable DnD reordering | |
| 19:01 | zanoi | does anyone know whether it is possible to move a file while it is being downloaded with bittorrent? |
| 19:02 | kcw | bendk: can we un-special case PlaylistSort and enable it through SORT_KEY_MAP? it would still need special-casing for DnD, but the normal sorter selection mechanism should work now |
| 19:02 | previously it was special-cased because it wasn't based on the current sort column | |
| 19:02 | bendk | the issue is that we need to pass a parameter to PlaylistSort's constructor |
| 19:02 | I mean the PlaylistOrder column | |
| 19:03 | kcw | oh, the add_items / forget_items sort of stuff |
| 19:03 | bendk | yeah, exactly |
| 19:04 | I think I'm just going to make the tests work and add a note that we should fix them | |
| 19:06 | kcw | that's fine with me, but if we do reduce the special casing I think we could just put add_items and forget_items in an if self.is_playlist_sort that's set/unset with reorder |
| 19:08 | bendk | another issue is that we want a different PlaylistSort for each playlist, so a simple map isn't going to work. Maybe some sort of factory would, but I don't see exactly how |
| 19:08 | willkg | kcw, bendk: if this is something we should fix at some point in the future, tossing a FIXME in the code or a bug in the bug tracker would be good. |
| 19:08 | bendk | FIXME is there |
| 19:09 | willkg | ok, cool. |
| 19:16 | z3p | bendk: you wrote the xulrunnerbrowser code, right? |
| 19:16 | bendk | most of it |
| 19:17 | z3p | bendk: how are you setting the path where it looks for cookies? or are you not doing that? |
| 19:17 | bendk | this is on windows right? |
| 19:17 | z3p | bendk: yeah |
| 19:17 | bendk | I don't think I am |
| 19:18 | are cookies just not working at all? | |
| 19:18 | z3p | bendk: hmm, okay |
| 19:18 | bendk: no, they're probably working in the browser | |
| 19:18 | bendk | I think it's probably automatically making them based on the support directory |
| 19:18 | z3p | bendk: but I need to 1) set a cookie 2) tell curl where to get them |
| 19:18 | bendk: I'll look into it some more | |
| 19:18 | bendk | wow, that's going to be hard |
| 19:19 | I'm sure there's some XUL class to do that, but it's definitely going to be a pain to route things back and forth | |
| 19:19 | z3p | bendk: it wasn't too bad on linux |
| 19:19 | bendk: ugh, great | |
| 19:19 | bendk: thanks :) | |
| 19:19 | willkg | z3p: sorry... we'll switch to webkit on windows in the next release come hell or high water. i promise. |
| 19:19 | z3p | willkg: no worries; it's still better than UI tickets |
| 19:20 | willkg: and OS X is probably going to be a PITA too | |
| 19:20 | willkg | z3p: don't we use webkit on osx? |
| 19:20 | z3p | willkg: we do, but they don't store cookies in the same way (although I already hacked around that) |
| 19:20 | willkg | ahh... exciting. |
| 19:21 | z3p | willkg: so I'm not sure how the cookie setting API is going to look either |
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| 19:36 | z3p | bendk: actually, it doesn't look like cookies are working on windows, at least not over a restart |
| 19:36 | bendk | ouch |
| 19:37 | z3p | and I don't see anything in support directory that moz related |
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| 23:33 | willkg | deardiary: sneezed and scared the bejesus out of the baby again. must stop sneezing. |