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| 12:49 | willkg | hi! |
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| 13:05 | z3p | good morning |
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| 14:31 | willkg | i should have bit the bullet and thrown caution to the wind and upgraded miro on windows to the most recent gtk switching us to gstreamer and webkit in the process. |
| 14:32 | i should have switched us to vidscraper, too. | |
| 14:33 | </regrets> | |
| 14:35 | z3p | willkg: there's always another release |
| 14:36 | janetPCF: for #15200 (can't get to 'play external'), how did you play the item? | |
| 14:37 | janetPCF | test 1 - used the File - Open dialog to browse to a pdf, and image file. |
| 14:37 | test 2 - opened the Finder and used Open With - to open the item with miro | |
| 14:39 | z3p | janetPCF: hmm, okay |
| 14:40 | janetPCF | is that what you would have expected? |
| 14:41 | z3p | janetPCF: no; I did both of those things before I checked the changeset in, and it DTRT |
| 14:41 | janetPCF | hmmm |
| 14:42 | I can go back a nightly or two to see if something changed in the meantime | |
| 14:42 | z3p | ah! figured it out |
| 14:42 | I was testing with random text files | |
| 14:42 | an image doesn't work, at least on OS X | |
| 14:44 | or on GTK | |
| 14:44 | weird | |
| 14:46 | willkg | deardiary: trying to get through all the little things i've been sitting on. |
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| 14:48 | willkg | gstreamer can load images. |
| 14:49 | and i think gst_extractor then considers it video. | |
| 14:49 | z3p | willkg: it's getting filed as 'other' correctly, though |
| 14:49 | willkg: but I think it's something like that | |
| 14:49 | willkg | z3p: by gst_extractor or by something else? |
| 14:49 | z3p | willkg: I don't know yet |
| 14:49 | willkg | we've got 3 things that do audio/video detection now. |
| 14:50 | z3p | *nod* |
| 14:50 | willkg | mmm... i keep meaning to tweak the logging so it's clearer who said what. |
| 14:50 | z3p: while you're fiddling with this, can you tweak the logging so it's clearer who said what about which file? | |
| 14:51 | z3p | willkg: sure thing |
| 14:51 | willkg | you're my hero. :) |
| 14:58 | paroneayea | willkg: so when is miro switching to gtk 3? ;) |
| 14:58 | actually, isn't there also some new not-pygtk api also | |
| 14:58 | willkg | i don't know. the bigger question is when we switch to the new bindings system. |
| 14:58 | yes! that's what i meant. | |
| 14:59 | so, i don't know the answer to that. | |
| 14:59 | paroneayea | http://live.gnome.org/PyGObject |
| 14:59 | okay :) | |
| 14:59 | willkg | also, i don't know when i'll work on better gnome3 integration and better unity integration, either. |
| 14:59 | paroneayea | just curious |
| 15:00 | willkg | they're good questions. it's one of a variety of reasons i'm frustrated that this dev cycle doesn't seem to want to end. |
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| 15:03 | bendk | glee: can you help me remember something? |
| 15:03 | glee | bendk: Yes, sure. What is it? |
| 15:03 | bendk | I think you made a bug that pointed out how we have a different shutdown path if the downloader is properly shutdown vs. it's socket is closed, is that true? |
| 15:06 | glee | I don't recall. But I do know that there are some problems when either Miro or the downloader was improperly shut down, I think I've seen stuff in bugzilla but I don't recall the bug number now. |
| 15:12 | bendk | lol |
| 15:12 | it was actually me who filed the bug | |
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| 16:03 | willkg | zanoi: you on? |
| 16:03 | zanoi | yes |
| 16:03 | willkg | zanoi: i don't understand what you want me to do with 16880. |
| 16:03 | zanoi: i quoted your test plan and then you replied that that's not the test plan. | |
| 16:03 | zanoi: so if that's not what you want me to do to test this, then what is it you want me to do to test this? | |
| 16:04 | zanoi | did you paste the link into the browser? |
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| 16:04 | willkg | zanoi: paste what link into the browser? |
| 16:04 | zanoi | the magnet link from the test plan |
| 16:04 | willkg | you said that wasn't the test plan. so now you're saying that is the test plan? |
| 16:05 | zanoi | no, i said that testing magnet.exe isn't part of the test plan :-) |
| 16:05 | willkg | no you didn't. you just said, "Nope." |
| 16:05 | hence my confusion. | |
| 16:05 | so what is it you want me to do? | |
| 16:06 | zanoi | you said: Ok, but the test plan has me testing magnet.exe registration: |
| 16:06 | and i said nope | |
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| 16:06 | willkg | ugh. |
| 16:06 | zanoi | because you're not supposed to test anything with magnet.exe |
| 16:06 | magnet.exe is a different tool | |
| 16:06 | willkg | ok. i'm kind of sick of this. walk me through what i'm supposed to do or i'm going to bump this to tomorrow's work. |
| 16:06 | zanoi | paste the magnet link into your browser url bar |
| 16:07 | this link: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:425f4584b420720abcc3a5c14d499ad231a67548&dn=Pirates+of+the+Caribbean%3A+On+Stranger+Tides+-+Trailer+HD+%281080p%29&tr=http://tracker.publicbt.com:80/announce | |
| 16:08 | willkg | i'm not using irc on my vista machine. is that the exact link in the comment #26? |
| 16:08 | zanoi | yes |
| 16:08 | willkg | ok. |
| 16:11 | ok. that opens miro and downloads stuff. | |
| 16:11 | does that pass the test? | |
| 16:18 | zanoi | yes |
| 16:18 | afk, dinner | |
| 16:19 | willkg | thank goodness. i'm so done with that bug. |
| 16:19 | on to other things! | |
| 16:20 | afk for lunch. | |
| 16:25 | zanoi: at some point, it would help significantly to write up the functionality that was implemented and how it's supposed to behave from a user's point of view in the Magnet design document: http://develop.participatorycu[…]/index.php/Magnet | |
| 16:25 | where "at some point" is in the next couple of weeks. i need that in order to write up whatever i need to write up in the miro user manual and i bet it'd help janetPCF test things, too. | |
| 16:26 | janetPCF: if you know what should be there ^^^, feel free to help out. | |
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| 16:32 | ajonas | hi serenakim27 ! |
| 16:34 | serenakim27 | Hello, I posted a bug "already downloaded" in Miro. |
| 16:35 | Could you check it and if there is anything unclear, please ask me more. | |
| 16:42 | janetPCF | serenakim27: do you have the bug id? |
| 16:43 | serenakim27 | Oh I logged in as Dean. |
| 16:44 | janetPCF | oh - do you want your own account? |
| 16:45 | serenakim27: did you look in the Misc section of Miro? | |
| 16:45 | bendk | wow, so I'm looking through the process of creating a bunch of file items for #16980 |
| 16:45 | janetPCF | there's a bug where some files are not set correctly so it could appear to have disappeared. |
| 16:45 | bendk | and there's sooooo much wasted time there |
| 16:45 | this is going to be annoying to code, but the nice thing is that we can make importing files way faster | |
| 16:45 | janetPCF | downloaded files don't expire - so if you didn't watch it, it shouldn't have expired. |
| 16:46 | bendk | but first I'm going to take a break |
| 16:47 | ajonas | janetPCF: thanks! we're looking now |
| 16:47 | janetPCF | check music too, just in case |
| 16:48 | zanoi | willkg, sure. I wanted to do that earlier but had understood it as us not having the time at the moment |
| 16:49 | willkg | i'm not sure why you understood that. pretty sure the party line is that it's better to write a design document before doing implementation work. |
| 16:49 | ajonas | janetPCF: so we found the file in serenakim27 's downloads, but it's telling her she's not connected (although she is). do you think it's just a computer problem and she should delete and try again? |
| 16:50 | willkg | but, whatever. i don't want to talk about magnet uris again today. |
| 16:51 | janetPCF | you can try that - where are you downloading from. Sometimes the error displayed in miro isn't too precise, but if you look in the log file there's more information |
| 16:51 | so I'd try to delete and redownload | |
| 16:51 | but also once you see if it fails - open Help -> Diagnostics, to locate the Log file and see if there is more information in there | |
| 16:52 | and serenakim27 should really make her own account, since if anyone has any questions about a bug, they'll go to Dean's email, and she won't know to respond | |
| 16:52 | serenakim27 | yes, thank you Janet. :) and I have my account, too. It was automatically logged in as Dean. Now I logged in my account. |
| 16:52 | janetPCF | ok good |
| 16:53 | what's your id, and I"ll add you as a cc on the big | |
| 16:53 | bug | |
| 16:53 | serenakim27 | serenakim27 gmail.com |
| 16:54 | janetPCF | serenakim27: since I've only met you in irc - and so I don't for evermore refer to you as serenakim27 - is your full name Serena Kim ? |
| 16:55 | serenakim27 | haha, yes. My real name is MinJung Kim. but you can call me Serena Kim. |
| 16:55 | janetPCF | however you prefer worksforme |
| 16:58 | serenakim27 | Call me Serena. |
| 16:58 | zanoi | willkg, i got the impression from this sentence of yours "while it's great to have a perfect design document, we've got a pretty ambitious 4.0 dev cycle, so a design document that consists of notes is totally fine for now." |
| 16:58 | but maybe i just misunderstood it | |
| 16:58 | that's why the magnet design doc just features minimal notes | |
| 17:00 | serenakim27 | janetPCF: Now I found that the last file was Flv. file, and downloading is not working. |
| 17:06 | janetPCF | serenakim27: all downloading or just that file? |
| 17:06 | serenakim27 | just that file |
| 17:06 | janetPCF | can you give me the url of the file, and I can try it here |
| 17:06 | serenakim27 | http://vimeo.com/20609339 |
| 17:06 | janetPCF | actually paste it in the bug too |
| 17:06 | willkg | janetPCF: if i'm in a watched folder tab display, and i click on the "Audio" filter button, should the "All" filter button stay depressed? i don't really understand how filter buttons are supposed to work. |
| 17:06 | zanoi | willkg, also I had understood "this is probably a problem miro has had for a while. it's worth checking to see if it was a problem with Miro 3.5.1 and if so, fixing the version accordingly" as meaning we should fix it in miro 3.5.1. Did i misunderstand that? |
| 17:07 | willkg | zanoi: yes. i meant the "version" field in the bug. that helps my script figure out whether the issue is a regression or not for the release notes. |
| 17:07 | we're not actively working on the 3.5 codebase anymore. | |
| 17:07 | zanoi | ah, ok |
| 17:07 | janetPCF | willkg: it is - because it's All Audio vs. Unplayed Audio |
| 17:07 | willkg | janetPCF: funky. ok. |
| 17:08 | zanoi | k, i'll close the bug then |
| 17:08 | janetPCF | serenakim27: it's a huge file but it started downloading for me. |
| 17:09 | you should see what is in your log files | |
| 17:09 | serenakim27 | I saw the log files, but I don't know which part should I see. |
| 17:09 | janetPCF | deardiary: verified a bunch of bugs today - tomorrow is Device and Share testing - all os. |
| 17:10 | serenakim27: you can attach both the miro.log and miro-downloader.log files to the bug | |
| 17:10 | I have to run to go pickup the kids, but I should be back later on | |
| 17:10 | ajonas | thanks janetPCF ! |
| 17:10 | serenakim27 | Thank you! |
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| 17:15 | janetPCF | no problem, back a bit later |
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| 18:52 | z3p | deardiary: reverted to maverick; natty is still too flaky |
| 19:00 | zanoi | z3p, thanks for the warning |
| 19:00 | is it because of unity or other issues? | |
| 19:00 | z3p | zanoi: I don't like unity, but even in classic mode there were issues |
| 19:01 | zanoi | ok |
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| 19:04 | zanoi | we don't seem to be using the LibraryHeaderToolbar class in itemlistwidgets.py at all, should I remove it? |
| 19:04 | willkg | sure. |
| 19:05 | deardiary: running updates on the build boxes.... | |
| 19:05 | zanoi | ok, just wanted to make sure nobody is working on something that uses it in the future |
| 19:06 | willkg | well, you've only got my input so far. if you want everyone's input, you should send an email to the develop list. |
| 19:06 | i definitely can't speak to whether other people plan to use it in the future. | |
| 19:06 | especially where i only vaguely know what other people are working on day-to-day. | |
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| 19:36 | bendk | kcw: is there a policy of when the movie data program overrides mutagen and vice-versa? |
| 19:36 | they both calculate the media type and duration, and it looks like in one case the movie data program wins and in the order mutagen does | |
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| 19:41 | kcw | bendk: I think it's: mdp runs when mutagen can't get a length |
| 19:42 | bendk | for video it runs all the time |
| 19:43 | then the media type that the mdp returns gets set as the new media type | |
| 19:43 | but the duration only gets set if mutagen didn't determin a duration | |
| 19:45 | kcw | oh, yeah. we should probably always use the mdp duration |
| 19:46 | bendk | cool, I'll do that |
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| 20:32 | zanoi | willkg, so do you mind if I push the vista patch to master? |
| 20:32 | willkg | zanoi: nope. |
| 20:32 | zanoi | ok. |
| 20:33 | also feel free to tell me if you want me to rewrite it to only use NSIS | |
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| 21:32 | willkg | bendk: i think i got the close/destroy stuff right. i still have to test on windows, but it works on linux, so i'm not expecting any surprises. |
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| 21:32 | willkg | bendk: it's in the willclose branch. can you take a look? |
| 21:33 | bendk: there are three commits. one of which is loosely related to close/destroy and basically lets me hit ^C and kill the miro process on linux. that's been an annoyance for me for a while now. | |
| 21:33 | bendk: the other two are (probably) straight-forward. | |
| 21:34 | afk a smidge.... | |
| 22:11 | bendk | willkg: sure, I'm taking off for now but I'll check it out tonight |
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