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| 00:31 | willkg | wow... so we went an entire day and the only three people who spoke on this channel were me, z3p and paulproteus. |
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| 00:55 | paulproteus | willkg: Hey -- was it Flask that is the microframework you liked? |
| 00:57 | * paulproteus | assumes yes and suggests it to a friend. |
| 00:59 | willkg | paulproteus: yes, but that's partially because i haven't used it a ton and haven't found a big reason to dislike it. |
| 01:00 | paulproteus: paroneayea and i are starting another microframework called beardomatic (for now) with no interest in marketing it but every interest in codifying what we like using. | |
| 01:01 | paulproteus: armin talks about flask here: http://python.mirocommunity.or[…]opening-the-flask | |
| 01:01 | paulproteus: it doesn't get into the nitty gritty of how to use it, but it does cover why it exists and what problems it tries to solve. | |
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| 14:35 | paulproteus | z3p: Howdy. |
| 14:36 | z3p | paulproteus: good morning |
| 14:36 | paulproteus | Are you available to chat briefly Right Now? |
| 14:36 | (Skype, say?) | |
| 14:36 | z3p | paulproteus: sure; let me just re-fill my coffee and turn it on |
| 14:36 | paulproteus | Okay, hot. Get on Skype and ring me, then. |
| 14:39 | http://bugzilla.pculture.org/r[…]nity&target=1.2.1 http://bugzilla.pculture.org/r[…]munity&target=1.8 | |
| 14:39 | http://develop.participatorycu[…]teus/MC_1.5_ideas | |
| 14:45 | http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=16604 | |
| 14:58 | z3p: We could use e.g. http://vicerveza.homeunix.net/~viric/soft/ts/ to run some in the background | |
| 14:58 | re: feed polling | |
| 15:00 | https://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/wiki/Hubs | |
| 15:08 | Also, vidscraper integration with localtv is kind of messy. | |
| 15:08 | http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=16312 is one example. | |
| 15:10 | https://gitorious.org/openhatc[…]/customs/tests.py FWIW is one place that I do web scraping testing in an offline way -- see "FakeGetPage" | |
| 15:20 | z3p: If you're going to help out on MC stuff, it would be so super helpful! (-: | |
| 15:20 | As I was saying before, I've been relatively away from pushing the project forward because there's been all these sort of custom or deployment-related things to do lately. | |
| 15:21 | z3p | *nod* |
| 15:30 | paulproteus | http://reinout.vanrees.org/web[…]flakes-emacs.html -- z3p + paroneayea, does that pass your sanity-check for an Emacs+pyflakes setup? |
| 15:32 | paroneayea | paulproteus: looks nice, nicer than what I'm doing even :) |
| 15:33 | paulproteus | Okay, taking 5-10 min to set that up here then. |
| 15:35 | z3p | paulproteus: I do it the flymake way |
| 15:35 | paulproteus | It's so lame when people's shell scripts they suggest you copy-paste don't put $1 in quotes. |
| 15:36 | paroneayea | paulproteus: http://dpaste.com/533587/ |
| 15:36 | that's all I do | |
| 15:36 | yeah, also use flymake | |
| 15:36 | if you want it to auto-turn-on disable the remove-hook | |
| 15:36 | I both add and remove the hook to always enable flymake-mode because for some reason at some point I got annoyed with it | |
| 15:36 | and so I turn it on selectively | |
| 15:36 | paulproteus | Pretend I don't really know what flymake is, or why I would prefer/disprefer it to/from the C-c C-w pychecker thing. |
| 15:37 | paroneayea | paulproteus: flymake checks things as you type them |
| 15:37 | * paulproteus | 's eyes bug out. |
| 15:37 | paroneayea | like an auto-spellchecker in a word processor |
| 15:37 | but for code | |
| 15:37 | paulproteus | Well, hot diggety. |
| 15:37 | paroneayea | there's also flyspell-mode if you *do* want auto-spellchecker stuff for other things, btw ;) |
| 15:38 | I guess it's time I comment out the remove-hook again and enable auto-code-checking as I type again :) | |
| 15:40 | paulproteus | Okay, is http://www.ymer.org/amir/2010/[…]ramming-in-emacs/ a reasonable way to get flymake+pyflakes going? |
| 15:40 | Also I'd love to toss pep8 in there. | |
| 15:41 | paroneayea | paulproteus: that looks fine. You could also use what I pasted in and apt-get the stuff listed there |
| 15:41 | either will work. | |
| 15:41 | I'm not really sure what that codeblock does entirely | |
| 15:42 | paulproteus | Me either for yours. |
| 15:42 | Also, wow, this is nice. | |
| 15:42 | paroneayea | okay, I can tell what it's doing now |
| 15:42 | paulproteus | Okay, another question: can I suppress a warning? |
| 15:42 | I have code like: | |
| 15:42 | try: | |
| 15:42 | from PIL import Image | |
| 15:42 | except ImportError: | |
| 15:42 | import Image | |
| 15:43 | pyflakes dislikes the last line. Seems like I should maybe suppress the warning... also how do I see what pyflakes things is wrong? | |
| 15:43 | I could use C-c C-w and do things like that blog post suggested, so I can see 'em. | |
| 15:43 | paroneayea | paulproteus: I recommend using flymake-cursor |
| 15:44 | paulproteus | Oh my god, wow, my unused code is just highlighted in red. So amazing. |
| 15:44 | paroneayea | it'll just show you warnings when your cursor is hovering over the borken code |
| 15:44 | in the mode-line | |
| 15:44 | er | |
| 15:44 | in the minibuffer. | |
| 15:44 | paulproteus | M-x flymake-cursor doesn't seem to be found. What then? |
| 15:44 | paroneayea | let me upload that file to dustycloud.org |
| 15:44 | it seems not hosted anywhere anymore. | |
| 15:45 | paulproteus | from rem.up.sad_professor import "What a sad parade." |
| 15:45 | paroneayea | paulproteus: http://dustycloud.org/tmp/flymake-cursor.el |
| 15:45 | (load-file "~/elisp/flymake-cursor.el") | |
| 15:45 | or wherever you put it | |
| 15:45 | you'll be thankful for it. | |
| 15:45 | paulproteus | Also, is "M-g g" really the state of the art for jump-to-line? |
| 15:46 | paroneayea | paulproteus: that's what I use |
| 15:47 | z3p: if you aren't using flymake-cursor you may appreciate that as well | |
| 15:47 | paulproteus | It gave me an error... let me see if I can reproduce that. |
| 15:48 | Error in post-command-hook: (void-function second) | |
| 15:48 | paroneayea | paulproteus: (require 'cl) |
| 15:48 | gotta enable common-lisp tools | |
| 15:48 | paulproteus | b |
| 15:48 | Redefinition of unused 'Image' from line 28 | |
| 15:49 | paroneayea | wha? |
| 15:49 | oh is that one of your flymake warnings | |
| 15:49 | paulproteus | That's success! It's the flymake warning. |
| 15:49 | paroneayea | yay :) |
| 15:49 | paulproteus | Yeah, now I just want to supress that sucker. |
| 15:49 | z3p | paroneayea: already using it :) |
| 15:49 | paroneayea | I haven't configured flymake much at all |
| 15:49 | I just use the defaults | |
| 15:50 | z3p | paroneayea: that was included in the code I copied into my .emacs |
| 15:50 | * paulproteus | reads http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]gnore-a-statement |
| 15:51 | paroneayea | paulproteus: one more recommendation |
| 15:51 | paulproteus | Fire away. |
| 15:51 | As long as ajonas isn't here, I can spend time improving my toolchain rather than moving the project forward directly. (-; (actually, I do think that this is quite a good use of time so far) | |
| 15:52 | paroneayea | wget: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs[…]/column-marker.el |
| 15:52 | (load "~/elisp/column-marker.el") | |
| 15:52 | (add-hook 'python-mode-hook | |
| 15:52 | (lambda () (interactive) (column-marker-1 80))) | |
| 15:52 | ||
| 15:52 | paulproteus | Aww man, but with my 82-character-long variable names, I'm going to get so many highlights )-: |
| 15:52 | paroneayea | now whenever your code goes over 80 characters it'll mark the first character over-80 with a red background |
| 15:52 | paulproteus | okaaaayyy fine. |
| 15:54 | (done) | |
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| 15:54 | paroneayea | ajonas is here which means paulproteus can't customize his emacs any more! |
| 15:54 | * paroneayea | disappears after stirring up trouble |
| 15:54 | paulproteus | Aww, man! |
| 15:54 | I already found one bug, actually. | |
| 15:54 | ajonas | hey all - actually we have a minor emergency so i'm going to run |
| 15:55 | paulproteus | Okay! |
| 15:55 | Does the emergency involve me? | |
| 15:55 | paroneayea | more time for emacs customiztions! |
| 15:55 | * paulproteus | laughs out loud, paroneayea. |
| 15:55 | paroneayea | paulproteus: your emacs is gonna be so sweet after today |
| 15:57 | paulproteus | paroneayea: Yeah! But just on my desktop. I have to work on my inter-machine Emacs sync story. |
| 15:57 | "Man, if only my Emacs configuration were stored in the cloud..." | |
| 15:58 | paroneayea | well son let me tell you about this new cloud technology from the world of tomorrow |
| 15:58 | called git | |
| 15:58 | paulproteus | Does it have a cool domain name, like g.it? |
| 15:58 | If not, forget.it. | |
| 15:59 | * paroneayea | says in his best http://paleofuture.com voice: "In the future, when Mr. Watson gets out of his flying car and swallows his breakfast pill, he'll log into his macrovac computer and pull down changes of documents fhe collaborates on with minds from across the world, using Git (TM)" |
| 16:00 | paroneayea | one of my favorite themes is to apply paleofuturism to the modern world. |
| 16:01 | paulproteus | (-: |
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| 20:32 | paulproteus | deardiary: Right now I am merging some work I did to permit little bits of "plugin" code in MC to modify the way the submit video form works. |
| 20:33 | Then I will be fixing a bug that a user hit in video importing (for RSS video feeds with a <tags> element, but no MRSS categories). | |
| 21:04 | deardiary: hopefully right now, I will finally write up the MC 1.2 theming update notes. | |
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