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| 11:59 | willkg | hi! |
| 12:10 | deardiary: updating the osx build box to the new binary kit. | |
| 12:27 | glee: nice! thank you for keeping track of perian updates. upgrading fixes a bunch of stupid things. | |
| 12:27 | glee | willkg: No worries, I've been keeping track of some of the Perian related bugs so hopefully this should address some of them. |
| 12:27 | * willkg | nods. |
| 12:44 | willkg | compile compile compile compile compile. |
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| 13:13 | willkg | glee: i'm pushing a new osx nightly that has the binary kit update. can you test it out and make sure the nightly is ok? |
| 13:13 | glee | willkg: Sure. |
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| 13:45 | glee | willkg: Latest Miro nightly looks okay to me. |
| 13:46 | willkg | yay! |
| 13:51 | z3p | good morning |
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| 15:02 | paulproteus | Morning, all! |
| 15:04 | z3p: Did you take a look at my miro-community-development email? | |
| 15:04 | I know there's like 1 min before we all talk on a big phone call, but I thought I'd mention it at least. | |
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| 15:06 | z3p | paulproteus: I don't see why it would be re-save_thumbnail()ing on each save() |
| 15:08 | paulproteus | a) I'll reread the code... |
| 15:08 | b) Even if for old saves it does not re-thumbnail, the initial save is still killer for feed import. | |
| 15:09 | z3p | paulproteus: b) is almost certainly true; it's a trade-off because Dean has never liked having items show up without thumbnails |
| 15:10 | paulproteus | If we just show the user the e.g. YouTube JPG and had the browser scale it, and did the replacement in the background, that would probably be fine? |
| 15:10 | That would require fewer code changes maaaybe. | |
| 15:10 | z3p: Yeah, for some reason, I could have sworn that "Video.save()" called save_thumbnail. | |
| 15:10 | It's nice that it's explicit instead. | |
| 15:11 | z3p | paulproteus: probably; the issue is you'd have to check S3 to see whether a thumbnail is there, which means more HTTP requests |
| 15:11 | paulproteus: but it might be worth doing on the dev server to see if it's faster | |
| 15:12 | paulproteus | z3p: What I mean is hotlinking: |
| 15:12 | I wish we had a private voice room while the conf call got started. | |
| 15:12 | z3p | paulproteus: yes |
| 15:12 | paulproteus: but if you're only going to hotlink while the thumbnails are being generated, you'll need to have a way to know if that's done | |
| 15:13 | paulproteus: I guess you could add a flag to 'thumbnailable' | |
| 15:13 | paulproteus | We'd make a new attribute on the Video that's, like, temporary_thumbnail_url, and you'd have a getter that provided one of the two. |
| 15:13 | Right, yeah. | |
| 15:13 | This isn't super awesome, I admit. | |
| 15:58 | paroneayea | http://www.boingboing.net/2011[…]gle-video-be.html |
| 16:00 | * paroneayea | wonders if vidscraper can download google videos correctly these days |
| 16:02 | z3p | paroneayea: it's not going to matter soon! |
| 16:02 | paroneayea | yeah but I want to get a video of one of my first talks! :) |
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| 16:40 | willkg | i added the stages to the dev cycle to this wiki page: http://develop.participatorycu[…]hp/ReleaseProcess |
| 16:40 | that page could probably be cleaned up a bit, but i'll wait until after 4.0 to do that. it's got a lot of my personal notes in it. | |
| 16:41 | on that note, i'm going to jet. planning to visit my family today. | |
| 16:41 | later! | |
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| 17:59 | bendk | hi all |
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| 19:04 | bendk | z3p: if I wanted to delete a bunch of items from a device, would it be faster to call set_bulk_mode() before/after the delete calls? |
| 19:09 | z3p | bendk: possibly, depending on how many you're deleting |
| 19:13 | bendk: best to do it, just in case; it doesn't hurt anything | |
| 19:13 | bendk | heh, I just decided to skip it just in case |
| 19:13 | I'll add it though | |
| 19:18 | z3p | bendk: I said possibly because it might not be faster; definitely won't be slower though |
| 19:29 | bendk | z3p: can you take a look at this and tell me if the device part looks okay? |
| 19:29 | http://git.pculture.org/miro/c[…]ce7df5d23e0e4cf4b | |
| 19:36 | z3p | bendk: the only thing I can think of is that if one device fails, all of the other items won't be deleted |
| 19:36 | bendk: but since I can't think of a way to delete items from multiple devices, I don't think it's an issue | |
| 19:43 | bendk | cool, thanks |
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| 20:15 | zanoi | kcw, for your info, I've put the item list bug on ice for now since we're supposed to focus on more serious bugs. However, at some point I'd like to talk about which column changes I can make without breaking stuff and which ones I should be careful about |
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| 21:09 | Guildenstern | I hesitate to submit a bug |
| 21:10 | I recognized that (in 3.5) the date colomn always falls back to default width | |
| 21:10 | and the default width is too small to show the date | |
| 21:11 | I always see e.g. 20.04.201 instead of 20.04.2011 | |
| 21:15 | which component is responseable for that? | |
| 21:15 | List View? | |
| 21:19 | kcw | Guildenstern: yeah, that's a good component for that |
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| 22:30 | bendk | z3p: can you check out http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=17025 when you get the chance? |
| 22:30 | taking off for the day, see you all later | |
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