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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:13 | bendk | willkg: you still here? |
| 00:14 | willkg | yes. |
| 00:14 | just put the baby to bed. | |
| 00:14 | bendk | I've got this all figured out except now we're back to an earlier issue |
| 00:14 | the search text entry should emit "activate" when the clear button is pressed right? | |
| 00:14 | not "validate" | |
| 00:14 | willkg | i don't know. |
| 00:14 | bendk | okay |
| 00:14 | well, emitting "validate" seems to make it work | |
| 00:15 | I'll make a ticket to straighten things up in the future | |
| 00:15 | willkg | pretty sure i talked with you the last time i fiddled with things. so it's better to look at the related checkin comments and bugs. |
| 00:15 | i'm pretty sure i had a hell of a time getting it to work on all three platforms the correct way. | |
| 00:16 | mmm.. i think it was 12748: http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=12748 | |
| 00:16 | https://git.participatorycultu[…]ommit/?id=a94bcb2 | |
| 00:16 | looks like i originally did it with validate. | |
| 00:16 | bendk | okay, let's keep with that for 4.0 and figure out things better for 4.1 |
| 00:17 | willkg | i'm confused. it looks like it uses validate right now. are you saying you think it's using activate? |
| 00:17 | bendk | nope |
| 00:18 | I'm saying that we should be using activate (at least the way I think of the signals) | |
| 00:18 | but for now, I'll just keep using validate | |
| 00:19 | willkg | i'm not sure i'm following this conversation. |
| 00:19 | bendk | I'll make a ticket and try to explain better |
| 00:19 | willkg | ok. |
| 00:19 | it's ok to not explain, too. | |
| 00:21 | bendk | wow, screw NSSearchField |
| 00:21 | so I have things working mostly, except now there's a new issue. If I delete all the text, then click anywhere, the cancel button dissapears | |
| 00:22 | in that case there's no way for the user to clear the search | |
| 00:22 | willkg | man... i just did a search for "validate" in my xchat history and we have virtually this same conversation over and over and over again. |
| 00:22 | it's pretty funny. | |
| 00:22 | bendk | I think I'm just going to leave that one in |
| 00:22 | willkg | we never really figure out what validate was supposed to be for, but it seems to work, so we leave it as is. |
| 00:23 | bendk | sounds how I remember it :) |
| 00:23 | going downstairs to make dinner, I'll think if this new bug is fixable | |
| 00:23 | willkg | the most recent iteration is february 11, 2011. |
| 00:23 | good luck with both of those! | |
| 00:24 | bendk: ping me if you want a copy of the irc conversation where you explain validate to me. | |
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| 11:54 | willkg | hi! |
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| 13:33 | z3p | good morning |
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| 14:07 | z3p | deardiary: working on devices |
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| 15:18 | paroneayea | paulproteus: when I take showers, I also get a lot of good ideas. I've been thinking of getting a shower timer so I waste less water, but then maybe I'll also waste ideas |
| 15:19 | willkg | paroneayea: that's exactly my problem! |
| 15:21 | paulproteus | willkg: You and I talked about Al Jazeera a few weeks ago, iirc. (-: |
| 15:21 | * paulproteus | is suddenly reminded of it. |
| 15:22 | willkg | yeah! though i don't remember why. |
| 15:22 | what's my name again? | |
| 15:23 | paulproteus | aah! |
| 16:39 | willkg | afk a smidge... then i'll post the dev call notes. |
| 17:07 | dev call notes: http://bluesock.org/~willg/blo[…]all_20110427.html | |
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| 17:22 | paulproteus | deardiary: I am awake again! |
| 17:23 | willkg | deardiary: going to spend some time testing external drives on all three platforms. |
| 17:27 | bendk: i attached an external drive, start miro in a clean-slate environment, told miro to look at all attached devices, and i think it's importing stuff, but honestly, there's no activity in the ui and no indication it's found anything. | |
| 17:27 | bendk: this is the drive where i've got like 3000 media items or so. | |
| 17:28 | bendk: if i flip between the Video and Music tab for the drive, then the progress indicator goes away and doesn't seem to come back. | |
| 17:29 | bendk: so... i guess my point is that it looks busted and doesn't seem to be working. want me to write up a bug? | |
| 17:29 | z3p: ^^^ | |
| 17:30 | z3p, bendk: i'm using the latest in git master. | |
| 17:30 | z3p | willkg: on master, it should be showing something; I just checked in a fix for that during the call |
| 17:30 | willkg | z3p: i have two blank tabs. |
| 17:31 | z3p: er, for both the Video and Music tabs, i click on them and they show no items in the display. | |
| 17:31 | z3p: mmm... seems like it's stuck on the scanning side of things. | |
| 17:31 | z3p | willkg: :( |
| 17:32 | willkg | i'll fiddle with this some more and write up a bug. |
| 17:32 | z3p | it might just be slow... |
| 17:32 | idle (handling backend message: <miro.messages.TrackItems object at 0x95e93d0>) too slow (73.272 secs) | |
| 17:33 | which is absurd | |
| 17:33 | willkg | possibly... i'm going on 1 minute now and seeing nothing in the logs denoting activity. |
| 17:34 | 2 minutes. | |
| 17:34 | no drive activity that i can see, either. | |
| 17:39 | z3p, bendk: i'm writing up a bug now. | |
| 17:45 | z3p: it's bug 17146. ping me if you need more information and if i'm not online, call me. | |
| 17:48 | z3p | willkg: my guess is that this is coming from fetch_all() |
| 17:54 | willkg | ugh. i have to build a new external drive to test on osx and windows because my main one is probably ext3 or ext4. |
| 18:06 | z3p | willkg: you should re-try w/ master aka 9ef9b19 |
| 18:07 | willkg: it won't be 100% better (I think I'll need to add an ItemInfoCache for devices), but it shouldn't be constantly re-running mutagen | |
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| 18:12 | willkg | z3p: i'll do that after i get a fat32 test drive built. |
| 18:13 | z3p: i can spend some time pseudo-git-bisecting the issue, too, if you want. | |
| 18:13 | this is way more interesting than tracking down why there are orphaned ffmpeg process floating around in miro on windows. | |
| 18:15 | z3p | willkg: sure, if you'd like |
| 18:16 | willkg | ok. i'll spend some more time figuring out what's going on. i'll grab the bug now. |
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| 19:26 | willkg | i'm puzzled. it's not working with absolute paths for some reason. <obligatory>but it works fine on my machine.</obligatory> |
| 19:27 | there. works now. must have been a problem with the previous version. | |
| 19:27 | sorry that took so long. what a total fucking pain in the ass. | |
| 19:27 | whoops--wrong line. | |
| 19:28 | that's what i get for trying to figure out multiple things for multiple contexts. bah. | |
| 19:28 | all of this applies to the external drive stuff, too. sort of. | |
| 19:28 | z3p: so.... external drives work fine on osx, but totally fail on linux and windows. | |
| 19:28 | z3p | willkg: wait, linux |
| 19:28 | willkg | z3p: and honestly, that smells like directory watching to me. |
| 19:29 | z3p | willkg: devices don't use the directory watching stuff, AFAIK |
| 19:29 | willkg | well, so much for that theory. |
| 19:30 | z3p | willkg: I was using an external drive earlier today on linux; it's really not working at all for you? |
| 19:30 | willkg | totally not working. just like i said in the bug. |
| 19:30 | i can reproduce it every time with those steps. | |
| 19:30 | and it's the same problem on windows, too. | |
| 19:31 | z3p | willkg: do you have a lot of non-media files on that drive? |
| 19:31 | willkg | nope. |
| 19:32 | honestly, it looks like nothing is going on. that log shows a huge gap of nothing logged. | |
| 19:32 | z3p | it looks like something is keeping the device scan from running |
| 19:32 | willkg | er, well, so i have two drives. |
| 19:32 | z3p | because it's still going when you quit |
| 19:32 | willkg | the one i tested windows with is a new drive with just media on it. |
| 19:33 | z3p | and there's a big gap between when we get 'scan is too slow' messages |
| 19:33 | willkg | the one i tested linux with is the external drive i've been using for the last few months which has a ton of stuff on it. |
| 19:33 | z3p | willkg: okay, that makes sense |
| 19:33 | willkg | really? it never used to behave this way. |
| 19:34 | z3p | willkg: bdk refactored it, and now it doesn't work the way it used to |
| 19:34 | willkg: I think the solution is to go back to the old way | |
| 19:34 | willkg | yeah, i don't remember it being this bad after he refactored it, either. |
| 19:34 | but i thought he refactored the watched folder stuff--not the external device stuff. | |
| 19:35 | z3p | willkg: try it before/after http://git.participatorycultur[…]adc97995e32020a6c |
| 19:36 | willkg: I'm heading out for gym/practice, but I'll check in later | |
| 19:36 | willkg | ok. |
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| 20:22 | paulproteus | willkg: ajonas indicated to me that she cares a lot about http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=15177 (-: |
| 20:23 | Are you going to get working on it soon, do you think? If not, maybe I should push forward on it, and I can assign you to something else useful later. | |
| 20:23 | e.g. your API dreams, which honestly sound totally great. | |
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| 20:53 | willkg | afk for a shower. |
| 20:53 | paulproteus | willkg: I'll take that bug, as per our out-of-channel discussion |
| 20:53 | b re: shower | |
| 20:54 | willkg | paulproteus: you r0x0r. |
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| 21:39 | willkg | glee: please don't work on 13530. |
| 21:39 | glee: that's adding work to 4.0 that we don't need to be doing. best to leave it until 4.1. | |
| 21:45 | kcw, glee, z3p, zanoi: the goal is to push out a beta for friday. so we should be testing, fixing P1 critical issues, and working on stability-related things. none of us should be tackling additional features or other things that aren't P1 for 4.0 without talking about it first. that includes bumping things up from lower P* levels. | |
| 21:45 | zanoi | sounds good |
| 21:46 | willkg | the goal is minimizing the work we're doing and maximizing the miro quality for friday. |
| 21:46 | i mention it because glee just bumped a bug up from P2. figured i'd clarify the plan. | |
| 21:47 | z3p: did i give you enough information for that external drive problem? i have a few more things i can test if you want me to. | |
| 21:47 | z3p: if not, i can go git bisect miro on windows to figure out when external drives stopped working there. | |
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| 22:02 | willkg | afk for dinner. |
| 22:03 | z3p: i'll catch up with you later. feel free to toss either of the external drive bugs my way for more analysis. | |
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