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05:09 Oraby Hello guys, I've just tried my luck with one of the bitesized bugs and I've fixed it. I got couple of questions: 1. Given that the bug I worked on was something that had to do with the uninstaller, how to provide a test case for it other than: "The behavior was there, and now it is not there"..
05:25 Also when proposing a patch, how do I point out the parts that were diffed (given that its a .nsi file with over 1000 LOC)?? Should I just mentioned where the changes were made in the bug-comment??
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12:29 willkg hi!
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16:14 willkg bendk: i created a Miro-4.0.1 branch based on the v4.0.1 tag.
16:15 bendk cool, thanks
16:16 zanoi one thing I forgot to ask in the call, is what milestone should most bugs be reported to now?
16:16 do we report them as 4.1 and then ask ben if it can be changed to a point release?
16:16 or the other way around?
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16:30 willkg zanoi: so...  i think you're asking "what milestone should we assign bugs to to get fixed".
16:30 zanoi: if you're planning to put it on your plate, assign it to whatever milestone you think makes sense.
16:30 zanoi: if you're not planning to put it on your plate, don't assign a milestone.
16:32 zanoi willkg, ok. So its fine if I assign stuff to point releases without asking the release person for the point release whether it's ok that it goes in right?
16:47 bendk wow
16:47 so I already fixed the preparing items bug
16:47 #16383
16:55 willkg zanoi: use your best judgement.
16:55 zanoi ok
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17:07 ajonas hi leenzada
17:13 willkg bendk: sorry about that.  i forgot to skim through the subprocess branch.  i'll do that now.
17:13 bendk no problem
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17:15 bendk z3p: can I ask you about a changeset from march?
17:15 595cc4c2e49a8a4bb351e710968ed19696aa0e30
17:15 z3p bendk: sure, let me pull it up
17:15 bendk hmm, actually maybe not
17:16 you just changed the line there, I was wondering why we need to do anything with the icon before calling the first-time handler
17:17 z3p bendk: my guess is because otherwise the first time handler won't show the miro icon
17:17 bendk yeah, except it seems to work fine for me when I comment it out
17:17 plus that bug we talked about on the call gets fixed
17:18 z3p wow
17:19 bendk I think on windows the icons are built into the .exe right?
17:19 in any case, could you possibly see something going very wrong if we removed that line?
17:20 I think the issue is that if the database upgrade dialog is still open, somehow that call blocks, and then we're deadlocked
17:26 z3p bendk: go for it
17:27 bendk cool
17:29 willkg: so I think I have a fix for #17593, I'm going to build a nightly on the windows box to give to people to test
17:30 I ended up going with a different, but still pretty trivial change to fix things
17:30 http://git.pculture.org/miro/commit/?h=Miro-4.0.1
17:30 does that make sense to you?
17:31 willkg bendk: huh.  i'm not sure what _get_icon_location is.  give me a minute.
17:31 bendk it gets the path to the icon for the window and also sets it as the default icon for new windows
17:31 as far as I can tell, even without it the icons are still correct
17:32 willkg weird.
17:33 it gets called already in _run in WindowsApplication.
17:33 so, i think that looks ok to me.
17:34 i still think we should save preferences after changing the first time preference.
17:35 bendk seems good to me
17:35 I'll make that change too
17:35 willkg though, i don't remember offhand why i thought that was a good idea earlier.
17:35 but i had some serious conviction about it, so it must have been a really great idea.
17:36 </kidding>
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17:42 bendk kcw: I'm really confused as to how a parent can have a larger height than a child..  It seems like it only depends on the "tall" attribute and that's just set statically in the TabInfo class
17:45 kcw bendk: I don't know - z3p implemented #16559
17:46 bendk heh, he sent me an email too
17:46 z3p: can you explain it?
17:47 z3p bendk: kcw: all the top level tabs are TALL
17:47 bendk: kcw: but the podcasts/other children are not
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17:47 bendk z3p: but how does that happen?  where do we set tall?
17:47 z3p bendk: tablist.py:TabInfo
17:49 bendk so child tabs don't use TabInfo?
17:49 z3p bendk: no; child tabs use GuideInfo, or FeedInfo
17:50 or PlaylistInfo
17:50 bendk ahh that's right
17:50 okay, my fixed_size change is going away :)
17:50 sorry for all the confusion on this one
17:54 willkg: I just checked in the change for to save the config after we set STARTUP_TASKS_DONE
17:54 I'm going to build a windows build and ask users to see if it fixes things for them
17:54 then I guess we let it bake for a day or so and release it as 4.0.2
17:55 willkg 4.0.2 or 4.0.1.1?
17:56 as a side note, when we did 0.9.9.9, i think we had problems on windows because some code couldn't handle versions with 3 dots.  so...  hopefully we either fixed that or rewrote it in the last 4 years.
17:57 bendk sory 4.0.1.1
17:59 willkg: do I need to change anything in the appcast before I give it to people to test?
18:10 okay, testing build is out the door, I'm taking a lunch break
18:21 willkg bendk: i'm not sure...  i should have checked that.
18:21 bendk: and by "appcast", i think you mean "app.config".
18:22 bendk willkg: yeah, I meant app.config
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18:22 bendk I think it's okay for the testing build, maybe I should have changed the version number, but I think it should be fine
18:23 willkg bendk: it'll look like 4.0.1.  someone using it won't be able to tell the difference.  i'll tweak it and throw a new nightly out.
18:23 bendk: where'd you put the current nightly?
18:23 bendk http://nightlies.pculture.org/[…]17593-testing.exe
18:23 thanks for that
18:23 willkg ok.
18:24 bendk okay, taking of for real now.  be back in a short while
18:24 willkg ok.
18:45 bendk: fixed the app.config file, and rebuilt the build and put it where you put it.
19:05 ajonas paulproteus , z3p : i think youtube shortener doesn't work on dev, but it does seem different from before so i think i'll just reopen
19:05 paulproteus It doesn't work in some new, intriguing way (?). (-:
19:05 ajonas willkg, others: question about miro on ubuntu in #miro
19:08 paulproteus: yes
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19:09 Chillance have anyone here experienced Miro hanging and locking the HD up (Ubuntu) after just a few seconds from startup?
19:18 willkg where "HD" is hard drive?
19:18 which version of ubuntu and which version of miro?
19:19 Chillance: ^^^
19:19 Chillance well
19:19 seems it actually might be a hd failure thing
19:20 willkg oh, that totally sucks.
19:20 Chillance yea, but important stuff on it backed up
19:20 sucks anyway still though
19:21 * paulproteus and Chillance are talking it out in #miro
20:10 CarlFK willkg: you should prolly disable comments in pmc.  the daily spam is kinda depressing.
20:10 unless you want to leave it on, then I will tough it out ;)
20:11 willkg CarlFK: once in a blue moon, someone leaves a comment that indicates a problem with the video.  so...  i'm inclined to leave it if only for that reason.
20:11 CarlFK k
20:11 willkg CarlFK: however, i don't think any of the comments have been useful and my email address is on every page.  so i'm game for removing it.  it's definitely less maintenance.
20:12 CarlFK: oh...  looks like there's no way to disable comments.  i think we'd have to do it in the templates.
20:13 ajonas: does that sound right?  is there a way to disable comments altogether in MC?
20:13 ajonas willkg: yes, other than cutting it out of the theme
20:13 willkg: do you already limit to registered users?
20:13 willkg ajonas: no.  but all comments are moderated.  so nothing shows up unless i accidentally approve it.
20:14 ajonas willkg: if you limit it to registered users that would probably cut most of the spam
20:14 * willkg nods.
20:14 CarlFK works for me
20:16 willkg ok.  done.
20:32 bah.  forgot to blog the notes.  here they are now: http://bluesock.org/~willg/blo[…]all_20110601.html
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22:08 ajonas paulproteus: "Create a new video source on any MC site" - we can't use an existing source?
22:08 oh wait nm
22:08 misread
22:09 paulproteus: "Find some long category on a MC" - does it only work with categories? or all mc feeds?
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22:23 paulproteus ajonas: It works with all MC feeds, or at least it should.
22:23 ajonas paulproteus: excellent
22:23 paulproteus I think initially we created the ticket with categories in mind, but should work for all of 'em, yeah.
22:35 ajonas paulproteus: it's important that it's all of them, sorry if i wasn't clear on that, i will make sure to test
22:37 paulproteus Cool. Well, I implemented it for all of them, so that should work out fine.
22:37 (unless I failed to implement it properly, in which case I'll write a bunch more automated tests.)
22:37 Night, all!
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