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| 17:53 | willkg | hi! |
| 17:54 | CarlFK | hey willkg |
| 18:02 | willkg: walk me though touching up the 3 chipy vids: http://python.mirocommunity.or[…]ve_reject/?page=7 | |
| 18:02 | willkg | CarlFK: i'm not sure what you're asking.... |
| 18:02 | CarlFK | like GNU MediaGoblin - what would use use for tags? |
| 18:03 | willkg | CarlFK: oh. so, i tag all chris webber videos with "chriswebber". i'd also tag it with mediagoblin. and then it depends on what else he's talking about. |
| 18:03 | CarlFK: so, if he's talking about using buildout, i'd toss that in as a tag. if he talks about using jinja2, i'd add that as a tag, ... | |
| 18:03 | CarlFK | hmm |
| 18:03 | willkg | CarlFK: and i think i tag all the chipy videos with "chipy", too. |
| 18:04 | CarlFK | what puts them under http://python.mirocommunity.org/category/chipy ? |
| 18:05 | oh, I see it | |
| 18:11 | I am trying to define tags to help the organizers collect them (mainly put up a UI so the presenter can enter them) | |
| 18:12 | tags - typically technologies mentioned. | |
| 18:12 | I think that could be better - any suggestions | |
| 18:12 | ? | |
| 18:13 | willkg | i don't understand. who are the organizers? |
| 18:13 | oh... is this for pyohio? | |
| 18:13 | CarlFK | in the chipy case, me and brian |
| 18:13 | Eric for pyohio | |
| 18:13 | Steve H for djangocon | |
| 18:14 | who ever is asking for talks | |
| 18:14 | willkg | ok. so tags are pretty loose. we don't have a list of tags we always use. |
| 18:14 | CarlFK | "please give me your name, talk title, description and tags." "what's the tags for?" "I du no. carl asked for it." |
| 18:14 | willkg | generally i try to think about it from the user's point of view. if the user is looking for material on x, how do they find it? does this video have material on x? |
| 18:15 | CarlFK | paroneayea: ping - can you make a list of tags for your talk? |
| 18:15 | "search terms" ? | |
| 18:16 | willkg | well, it's not really search terms, but i' |
| 18:16 | er, i'm kind of using it to augment search terms. | |
| 18:16 | paroneayea | cwebber gnu mediagoblin python chipy mongodb mongokit wsgi foss |
| 18:16 | willkg | you don't need "python" since the whole site is about python. |
| 18:16 | paroneayea | CarlFK: sufficient? |
| 18:16 | CarlFK | paroneayea: cool. - that takes care of your talk. |
| 18:16 | paroneayea | sure |
| 18:16 | willkg | oh, whoops... i see what you're getting at. |
| 18:16 | CarlFK | paroneayea: any clue how you would describe that genericaly so I can ask people for it? |
| 18:16 | willkg | CarlFK: that list of tags from paroneayea looks fine except you can skip the "python" one. |
| 18:17 | paroneayea | also add "media" maybe. |
| 18:19 | CarlFK: Christopher Allan Webber talks about GNU MediaGoblin, a federated (decentralized) media publishing system (images, and later other media like video) written in python and under the AGPL. Infrastructure discussion describes what it means that GNU MediaGoblin uses an unframework / is "wsgi minimalist", about the choice of MongoDB and MongoKit, and how to impress an audience with ascii art mockups. | |
| 18:20 | CarlFK | paroneayea: so on the talk submission form, what should the help text be for the tags field? |
| 18:20 | heh | |
| 18:20 | paroneayea | help text for the tags field? |
| 18:21 | CarlFK | if I added 'tags' to http://pyohio.nextdayvideo.com[…]me/submit_a_paper |
| 18:21 | I need something to lead people to entering a list like you just gave me | |
| 18:22 | paroneayea | "A list of 'tags'... short keywords users can use to find your talk and related talks." |
| 18:24 | CarlFK | some how I bet I don't get as much as would be useful. like mongodb mongokit - your talk wasn't about those, but there was enough about them that it would be good for someone to find your talk |
| 18:26 | "related talks" is kinda it, but it's more of a side effect or soemthing. i think there will be many that don't get it. | |
| 18:33 | paroneayea | CarlFK: "A list of 'tags'... short keywords related to the content of your talk. Users can use to find your talk and talks with related elements." |
| 18:34 | willkg | paroneayea: i like that. +1. |
| 18:34 | CarlFK | not sure that says any more than "search terms" |
| 18:35 | see, I don't think mongo was "the content" of your talk | |
| 18:37 | "including sub topics discussed in your talk" | |
| 18:37 | sub topics - seems werid. | |
| 18:38 | meh, I'll make this brian's problem. | |
| 18:39 | willkg | CarlFK: honestly, with a good description, the tags are useful, but not critical. further, we can always tweak them over time. |
| 18:41 | CarlFK | yeah, I am just trying to get the presenter to do most of the work given it will be easiest for them |
| 18:42 | willkg | sure. that makes a lot of sense. i'm +1 on that. |
| 18:42 | CarlFK: https://github.com/willkg/pmc | |
| 18:42 | CarlFK | cool |
| 18:43 | willkg | CarlFK: that's where i'm going to start coordinating all the pmc stuff: outstanding issues, instructions for how to moderate/admin the site, templates, scripts, ... |
| 19:03 | CarlFK: https://github.com/willkg/pmc/wiki | |
| 19:03 | CarlFK: i added a page for moderator stuff. check it out and kick me if there are questions. also check out the section on tags and see if that makes sense and/or if there are things that still should get cleared up. | |
| 19:03 | CarlFK: you have a github account, right? what is it? i'll add you. | |
| 19:04 | CarlFK | CarlFK |
| 19:04 | willkg | bah. i should have guessed. |
| 19:07 | CarlFK: ok. over some period of time that i don't want to commit to because i don't feel like failing yet-another-time-commitment, i'll move stuff from my org-mode file to the issue tracker and the wiki. then we can use this to organize/coordinate on making pmc better. | |
| 19:08 | CarlFK | heh |
| 19:08 | cool | |
| 19:09 | willkg | ok. on that note, i need to take a break, get a cup of coffee, watch a violent movie or something, and then i'll come back to work on more stuff. |
| 19:09 | CarlFK | willkg: hold on.. |
| 19:09 | willkg | CarlFK: holding.... |
| 19:09 | CarlFK | those 3 chipy vids. should I do the unisub thing, or leave as is? |
| 19:10 | willkg | well, you can't do the unisubs thing unless: |
| 19:10 | a) you write an rss feed that takes the blip stuff and fixes it and adds the embed code, or | |
| 19:10 | b) you approve the video, then figure out the embed code, then edit the video in bulk edit and fix the embed code | |
| 19:11 | CarlFK | and we will just undo that when we support unisub in the template, right? |
| 19:11 | willkg | i'm +1 on unisubs, but it's such a pain in the ass right now, that until we figure out a better system, i'm a +0. |
| 19:11 | CarlFK | me too. |
| 19:11 | willkg | i'm hoping that undoing things is "easy" at that point. |
| 19:11 | if so, then this isn't a big deal. | |
| 19:11 | for some broad definition of "big deal". | |
| 19:12 | CarlFK | but there is the chance we loose subs - which I don[t want to worry about |
| 19:12 | willkg | when i get back, i'll flesh out the unisubs wiki page with everything i know, my hopes and dreams, and recipes and such. |
| 19:13 | well, theoretically, the subtitles are linked to the url for the media file. so if that url changes, then we orphan the subtitles. | |
| 19:13 | but i think that's true regardless. | |
| 19:13 | CarlFK | you mind finishing the 3 chipy vids sometime today? no subs, just do the easy thing and take notes. |
| 19:13 | willkg | i'm not positive, though. |
| 19:13 | take notes on what? | |
| 19:13 | CarlFK | on what you do |
| 19:13 | so that I can read the notes instead of buggin you | |
| 19:13 | willkg | did you read through the moderator wiki page? |
| 19:14 | CarlFK | no - guess I should |
| 19:14 | ill apply that to chris's and see how it goes | |
| 19:18 | willkg | CarlFK: it occurred to me that the page was conference-focused. i just added some additional notes about non-conference video. |
| 19:18 | so the GNU MediaGoblin ... video looks fine as is. | |
| 19:19 | the "New web2py features" video needs work. but it looks like you haven't gotten to that one, yet. | |
| 19:22 | ok... afk for a bit. | |
| 19:23 | CarlFK | see ya |
| 20:25 | willkg: I dont understand what you don't understand :) | |
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| 21:09 | CarlFK | bbl - going to the store to be ready for breakfast tomorrow :) |
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