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02:24 ThunderBlue hi good evening for all
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12:12 willkg hi!
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13:19 paulproteus Oh my goodness, currently working through the circus of getting mod_fcgid working.
13:20 willkg aha!  finally found the .h files i was looking for.
13:27 z3p good morning
13:31 paulproteus Good morning z3p!
13:31 We said what, 10:30 for MC call?
13:31 z3p I forget if we picked a real time
13:31 but 10:30 works for me
13:31 paulproteus Okay, let's say it, and also I'll make it to the office by then.
13:32 z3p sounds good
13:32 paulproteus: did you see my e-mail about RECEIVER_EMAIL?
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13:32 paulproteus z3p: I did.
13:32 I replied on #staff
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14:04 willkg oh, wait.  damn.  those aren't the .h files i'm looking for.
14:04 how irritating.
14:57 bendk janetPCF: you around?
14:58 janetPCF yes
14:58 bendk:
14:58 bendk so I ran the automated tests and received a bunch of failures, but I don't think they were accurate
14:58 janetPCF It's my fault, I sure
14:58 what is you monitor size?
14:58 bendk fairly small
14:58 it's a macbook
14:58 maybe 14"
14:59 janetPCF I had things set up to assume my monitor size - I'm connected to a 1920x1080 (or something)
14:59 bendk wow, yeah definitely not that large
14:59 janetPCF I fixed that today - so if the resolution is 1280 x 800 - it should work fine.
14:59 bendk so I do git fetch / git rebase?
15:00 janetPCF yeah - it should all be up to date now
15:00 bendk how long do they normally take?
15:00 because mine took over 4 hours
15:00 it seemed to be stuck in a couple places
15:00 janetPCF if you do python run_suite -q it will run a subset of the tests that run in 20 mins
15:00 bendk cool
15:00 also, it seemed to try to be operating on my terminal window
15:01 janetPCF 4 hrs is about right
15:01 bendk because I have to run the tests from the "Miro" directory, so it's in the titlebar
15:01 willkg rrr...  and i can't reach python.org.
15:01 this is turning into a sucky day where i do a ton of work and get absolutely no where.
15:01 janetPCF yeah - it's text recognition, so I try to minimize the run window
15:01 bendk ahh, that makes sense
15:01 janetPCF the test results are in an xml format in the last_run directory (so that they can be uploaded to litmus)
15:02 bendk I was trying forever to get the terminal titlebar to change, didn't think of that trick
15:02 janetPCF hm - maybe you could launch a second term from the first ( and there's some argument you can give it)
15:03 also - there's an assumtion that Firefox is your default browser, and will send rss feeds to miro
15:03 so 1 or 2 tests may fail to that.
15:03 bendk that part seemed to work
15:04 janetPCF if you want to send me the results directory after them I can go through them since I know which are failures that  are my fault\
15:04 bendk it was pretty amazing to see the browser open up and the test runs
15:04 also, it failed because I use a dvorak keyboard :)
15:05 whenever keyboard input happened, it was just garbage
15:05 janetPCF oh - that's a bummer - never thought of that -
15:05 bendk I don't know if you can fix that
15:05 janetPCF maybe that's a bug I can file with the sikuli people
15:05 bendk or really any of the issues, I'll try to add some notes to the wiki page
15:05 so should you always be in a certain resolution?
15:06 janetPCF no - but I set a default width in the prefs of 1200
15:06 bendk and when you run are these the steps:  You have 1 terminal window open, then you call the python script, then you minimize the window and take your hands of the keyboard?
15:06 janetPCF and height of 7000
15:06 700
15:06 bendk ahh, I see
15:07 janetPCF I also change the sidebar width - to be sure that the podcast names display enough
15:07 I didn't realize the width problem, except today I connected my ubuntu machine to a different monitor -
15:09 yes to your last question ( it looks for stuff on the screen) you can't change view either
15:10 I usually run tests on 1 machine at a time so I have 1 to work on, or start 'em and go swim, or sleep, depending
15:11 anyway - bendk if there's anything you think can be made better, please let me know.
15:11 bendk mostly just improve the instructions
15:11 janetPCF you are the first person who is not me to run the tests on an osx machine.
15:11 ok
15:11 bendk I'll take a pass on that
15:12 also, the tests use whatever version of miro is installed in the dock right?
15:12 janetPCF yes
15:13 and assumes it is located in /Applications
15:13 and assumes it's in English
15:15 bendk you use the "US" keyboard layout?
15:15 janetPCF I do
15:16 bendk okay, I entered a few extra hints based on what I had trouble with
15:16 janetPCF i have an annoying croatian keyboard, but set it to English-US, as I can touch type
15:16 great, thanks
15:16 how is lion working for you.
15:16 I verified the changes for the sharing today
15:16 the french translations look OK to me
15:17 bendk I think it's fine, although I haven't run through the tests yet
15:17 janetPCF my regression tests were good on Natty, and I was going to do another run on windows and osx 10.6 today
15:18 I also asked the French bug commentators to try the nightly
15:18 I think z3p still has to arm-wrestle a bit with zugo, but that's not considered a blocker for release.
15:20 z3p *%#$% zugo
15:24 bendk I'm going to run the quick tests, if they seem good, then I'm fine with things on the lion side
15:29 z3p janetPCF: are you running /FORCEUS in all caps?
15:30 paulproteus boom boom boom boom, mighty fine zugo.
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15:32 paulproteus Howdy benni.
15:33 benni hey awake up all night in hawaii and you
15:33 im just checking my client Ill be movin on thanks
15:36 bendk janetPCF: it seems to freeze with fish-detective.swf showing as an item
15:36 and DETECTIVE in the searchbox
15:40 janetPCF the test freezes?  It's probably looking for something that it can't find, I think the default time out is 30 seconds, but some things wait longer
15:43 bendk yeah, it just seems like it's waiting there
15:43 it's been there for like 10 mins now I think
15:44 waiting XXX seconds for item to appear in tab misc
15:44 but there is an item in the tab
15:44 XXX starts low, then made it's way up to 115 now
15:45 janetPCF oh - yuck - is it in normal view or list view
15:45 if the toggle missed, it's maybe not finding it
15:46 that one takes a long time in case it's waiting for a download to finish, but I don't really want it to wait forever
15:47 bendk it's normal view
15:47 it just moved forward a bit
15:47 now it seems to be moving
15:51 willkg yay!  python site is back up!
15:52 bendk janetPCF: is it supposed to be in list mode?
15:52 janetPCF the test is supposed to be smart enough to toggle itself to normal view when looking for items
15:52 it finds the words better in normal view
15:53 ajonas willkg: the mc site?
15:53 janetPCF only the feed update test is supposed to be in list view, and the list view test
15:53 willkg ajonas: no...  the python site.  www.python.org .
15:53 ajonas willkg: oh ok
15:54 bendk I hear beeping like it's hitting a key, but it's not working, do you know what that could be?
16:07 okay quick test is done
16:07 and there's a bunch of errors
16:07 should I upload them?
16:07 janetPCF sure or you can just send me the file
16:07 bendk is the last_run directory cleared out before each test run?
16:07 I'm not sure which files are from this one
16:08 janetPCF not automatically - I just do it manually
16:08 they are labeled with a time stamp
16:09 the errors are probably related to things that I've set up wrong in the tests - home machine bias or something
16:09 if you send me the whole directory I can sort through them pretty quickly
16:09 the beep is making sure something or another is cleared out
16:10 bendk okay
16:10 I'm emailing you the files now
16:10 there was a bunch of ones clustered around the same time, so I'm just sending those
16:12 janetPCF ok
16:15 bendk:  the failures are related to finding the feedname in the sidebar
16:15 did you remember to change the font size on your machine?
16:15 it's a text recognition problem
16:16 I think
16:18 I'll start a test run here, and be back later
16:20 bendk I changed it
16:33 janetPCF: After those tests, I started up miro and ran it, then quit, and I think the tests are running better
16:33 they don't seem to be freezing at least
16:36 could we make it so that we have a database/plist file that we install before running each test.  That way you would have a know environment where miro runs in
16:49 so I'm not sure what to do about these skuli tests, but it seems like things are going okay on lion
16:49 janet would know better than me though
16:49 willkg: I guess this is for you ^^
16:51 willkg bendk: ok.
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23:44 willkg bugger....  the pygtk aio i found isn't really an all-in-one.  boo.
23:44 sucks that it took two days to figure that out, though.
23:45 time to do 4.0.2.1 builds....

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