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| 11:47 | willkg | hi! |
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| 14:11 | paulproteus | Hi willkg! |
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| 14:25 | * willkg | just did some prep for chili for tonight. now the whole house smells like chili. yummy! |
| 14:51 | bendk | willkg: turns out that gstreamer 0.10.7 doesn't have set_render_rectangle() yet, so I'm back to ensure_native_window() |
| 14:51 | which should work, I just need t oget the events right | |
| 14:52 | willkg | cool! |
| 14:52 | i couldn't figure out the sound thing. i'm totally perplexed. | |
| 14:52 | i think i updated the bug about it. | |
| 14:53 | bendk | so weird |
| 14:53 | do you know what version songbird uses? | |
| 14:53 | how hard would it be to compile a newer one using OSSBuild? | |
| 14:53 | willkg | ossbuild maintains all the build scripts. i started looking into compiling things, but didn't get that far. |
| 14:54 | i don't know what version songbird uses and i don't know offhand if they use the ossbuild binaries. i doubt it since they do a lot of gstreamer work. | |
| 14:58 | bendk | by the way, do you know how gstreamer works on linux if it uses client side windows? |
| 14:58 | I don't get why we don't have the same problem there | |
| 14:59 | willkg | the problem as i understand it is that the client side windows implementation has problems on windows that were never really fixed. |
| 14:59 | or something like that. | |
| 14:59 | pretty sure it's a gtk issue--not a gstreamer one. | |
| 15:00 | bendk | so that's half the problem |
| 15:01 | the other half is that if GTK is using client-side-windows, that means that a GDKWindow is a native window + a rectangle that contains the area that it occupies. But if you pass that to gstreamer, it just fills the whole window | |
| 15:01 | but somehow that doesn't happen on linux... not that I'm complaining :) | |
| 15:02 | willkg | oh, hrm... i really thought it was just a Windows issue. i didn't delve into the implementation bits, though. |
| 15:02 | in either case, it's a total pain in the ass and makes me dislike gtk on Windows a lot. | |
| 15:02 | bendk | yeah, it definitely seems like it's an afterthought for the developers |
| 15:05 | willkg | well, i think it's less that and more that it's not very well used. so there aren't enough end-user-developers using it and fixing it. |
| 15:05 | it doesn't seem like it has enough of a critical mass on Windows. | |
| 15:05 | kind of makes me think we should switch toolkits.... but that's a huge project. | |
| 15:08 | it's like choosing between getting punched in the face, kicked in the shins, or some third option. | |
| 15:09 | kicked in the shins is the better of the three right now but only because the third option is unknown. | |
| 15:11 | janet | hey z3p - I've been trying to clean up some bugs for the devices UI changes - |
| 15:11 | let me know if I'm making them clearer - or confusing the issue more | |
| 15:12 | there's 1 more I have to file about a dual display thing when it's syncing or not syncing - it will probably be poorly written for now - but I think it's one where doing it or not would be a question of time / complexity | |
| 15:12 | bendk | willkg: that sounds exactly right |
| 15:23 | z3p | janet: they've been making sense |
| 15:23 | janet | ok thanks |
| 15:26 | bendk | willkg: wow, I just noticed that miro can't go fullscreen in fedora 15 |
| 15:26 | and probably ubuntu 11.10 | |
| 15:26 | can you test something out for me? | |
| 15:35 | zanoi | bendk: are you talking about a specific branch? because fullscreen works fine for me in ubuntu and kubuntu 11.10 |
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| 15:42 | willkg | bendk: it's a problem with gnome3 and gtk3, i think. |
| 15:42 | bendk | yup |
| 15:42 | willkg | bendk: i saw that last bug report and i think it's just the screensaver code that's erroring out. |
| 15:42 | bendk | I'm writing a Gnome3 version right now |
| 15:42 | willkg | cool! |
| 15:46 | bendk | do we have a ticket for this? |
| 15:47 | willkg | bendk: yes. let me find it. |
| 15:47 | bendk: http://bugzilla.pculture.org/s[…]_bug.cgi?id=17682 | |
| 16:02 | janet | z3p: for the delete related to device syncing - is there any deleting that happens with playlist items? |
| 16:02 | z3p | janet: I don't believe so |
| 16:02 | janet | OK - I didn't think so either but I wanted to be sure |
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| 16:07 | GitHub108 | [miro] bendk created fix17682 (+1 new commit): https://github.com/pculture/miro/compare/973e75c^...973e75c |
| 16:07 | [miro/fix17682] Fixed screensavers on gnome 3 (#17682) - Ben Dean-Kawamura | |
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| 16:09 | willkg | bendk: yay for fullscreen fixed! |
| 16:20 | z3p | do people like the github messages? |
| 16:21 | bendk | I do |
| 16:21 | willkg: can you peer-review that one for old times sake? | |
| 16:21 | willkg | sure! |
| 16:21 | bendk | plus tell me if it works on your system |
| 16:21 | willkg | z3p: i <3 the github messages. |
| 16:21 | in fact, i'm really pissed we didn't switch a year ago. | |
| 16:22 | bendk | I'm going to add a comment to that commit exlpaining our use of Inspect() |
| 16:23 | which is a really weird function. It returns method signatures as an XML string | |
| 16:23 | err Introspect() | |
| 16:23 | willkg | bendk: i think it looks ok. |
| 16:23 | did you test it with gnome3 and gnome2? | |
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| 16:24 | GitHub50 | [miro] bendk pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/pculture/mi[…]850d2b11e14f12e94 |
| 16:24 | [miro/master] Fixed screensavers on gnome 3 (#17682) - Ben Dean-Kawamura | |
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| 16:24 | bendk | I tested with gnome3 |
| 16:24 | you have gnome2 right? | |
| 16:25 | willkg | bendk: oh, yeah. i totally do. i switched to debian testing and it's running gnome2. |
| 16:25 | bendk | cool |
| 16:25 | I tested on windows too just to make sure that I changed the method signature right | |
| 16:26 | willkg | give me a minute to test it out. |
| 16:28 | bendk | zanoi: so you're running ubuntu 11.10? |
| 16:28 | and the gnome version? | |
| 16:29 | I'm wondering if we need add this patch to the .debs for that version | |
| 16:30 | willkg | we don't have packages for 11.10. it's not out yet. |
| 16:36 | bendk: works for me. i tested both the main screen and the full screen to make sure that it kicks off when it should and doesn't when it shouldn't. | |
| 16:36 | mostly to make sure that all works with my machine/configuration. | |
| 16:36 | bendk | cool |
| 16:40 | willkg | anyhow... we haven't done packages for 11.10 since it's not out. so on the ubuntu side, we're fine. |
| 16:41 | but this should go out with 4.0.4 if we ever do a 4.0.4 release. | |
| 16:42 | bendk | willkg: yeah I was more thinking ahead |
| 16:56 | janet | willkg: we probably are doing a 4.0.4 release the iPad app was approved |
| 16:57 | so if you can add the needs-cherry-pick flag… - or just pick it | |
| 16:57 | willkg | bendk: ^^^ |
| 16:58 | bendk | I'll cherry-pick now |
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| 16:58 | GitHub113 | [miro] bendk pushed 1 new commit to Miro-4.0: https://github.com/pculture/mi[…]61b24f953eaf288f2 |
| 16:58 | [miro/Miro-4.0] Fixed screensavers on gnome 3 (#17682) - Ben Dean-Kawamura | |
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| 17:03 | bendk | lunch time, be back in a bit |
| 17:05 | z3p | bendk: when you get back; is there a way to tell if we're already in the idle thread? |
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| 17:16 | willkg | z3p: i don't think there is an "idle thread"... |
| 17:16 | z3p: do you mean if the thing has been scheduled as an idle event? | |
| 17:17 | z3p | willkg: I guess yeah, it's just the main thread |
| 17:17 | willkg: the thread where idle events run | |
| 17:17 | actually, nevermind | |
| 17:18 | I can do this a different way | |
| 17:19 | willkg | might be interesting to tag events as to whether they were idle_added or time_added or whatever. |
| 17:21 | afk a bit.... | |
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| 17:32 | GitHub77 | [miro] paulswartz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/pculture/mi[…]9b49e3452ed5ed06f |
| 17:32 | [miro/master] 18150. Queued called size too large relating to scan_device_for_files - Paul Swartz | |
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| 17:34 | GitHub198 | [miro] paulswartz pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/pculture/mi[…]72a30570e6ff67bb1 |
| 17:34 | [miro/master] flip the _continue() logic to avoid an extra operation each loop - Paul Swartz | |
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| 17:42 | z3p | bendk: can you take a look at 18150 when you're back? |
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| 18:15 | melinath | z3p: atom+xml seems to read fine in my IE8, which has a higher version # than the ie8 mentioned in the bug report. |
| 18:16 | z3p | melinath: do you have an IE7 around? |
| 18:17 | melinath | z3p: no. I had to uninstall ie9 to even get ie8 |
| 18:17 | z3p | melinath: hmm, okay |
| 18:17 | melinath | z3p: do you? |
| 18:31 | janet1 | z3p: melinath - we have an account with saucelabs - and you can launch any browser in the cloud |
| 18:31 | I can give you login / url if that would help | |
| 18:33 | bendk | z3p: becde7d looks great to me |
| 18:33 | z3p | bendk: great, thanks |
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| 18:35 | janet1 | z3p melinath: https://saucelabs.com/scout |