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17:47 bendk z3p: Thanks for checking out that build patch
17:47 I guess it was only building on my VM because I had the OSSBuild packages installed and it was picking up the gstreamer DLL there
17:47 z3p bendk: :/
17:47 bendk I just updated the changeset and pushed it, can you try building again?
17:47 z3p bendk: you can always log into the buildbox to test
17:47 bendk: yep, one sec
17:55 bendk: looks better; I'll let you know if I get through the whole build
17:56 bendk cool
17:58 z3p bendk: looks good, I'll merge
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17:59 GitHub185 [miro] paulswartz pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/pculture/mi[…]6dfc524...c79a794
17:59 [miro/master] Fix windows build after overhaul merge (#18334) - Ben Dean-Kawamura
17:59 [miro/master] Merge pull request #31 from bendk/fix18334 - Paul Swartz
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18:08 bendk z3p: can you push a new nightly build too?
18:09 z3p bendk: yep, working on it
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18:10 ajonas morning all
18:13 melinath ajonas: morning.
18:49 z3p bendk: janet: new nightly build uploaded
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20:33 * paulproteus waves.
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20:42 daf willkg: hey!
20:42 * paulproteus waves to daf!
20:42 willkg daf: hi!
20:42 paulproteus bendk + z3p ( + willkg, slightly): daf has some questions about the Windows and Mac build processes.
20:42 daf yeah
20:43 paulproteus One day he'll get around to asking them, but I wanted to spill the beans anyway.
20:43 daf I have a Python + GStreamer project I'd like to distribute on windows
20:43 I was wondering if you guys had some advice/insight
20:43 willkg daf: check out the ossbuild sdk.  that (i think) has all the stuff you need to do a gstreamer app on windows.
20:44 daf interesting
20:44 what do you do for python?
20:44 willkg daf: bendk just finished up the work to use the ossbuild gstreamer sdk coupled with gtk 2.24.  i wouldn't recommend that combination.  i'd just go with the ossbuild gstreamer sdk which has gtk 2.16 in it.
20:45 pretty sure it has the python bindings for everything, too.  if it doesn't, you can grab the bindings separately.
20:45 daf: http://code.google.com/p/ossbuild/
20:46 daf I meant the interpreter
20:46 do you repackage the python.org one, or do something else?
20:46 or does ossbuild include it?
20:46 willkg miro uses python 2.6.6 from python.org.
20:46 ossbuild does not include it.  ossbuild has windows binaries for gstreamer and dependencies.
20:47 daf and the python.org python gets bundled into the miro installer somehow?
20:47 willkg yes.  miro uses py2exe to build miro with all the libraries and dependencies and python and the python code files.  then miro uses nsis to build an installer out of that.
20:49 daf ok
20:49 weird, this ossbuild doesn't seem to include python stuff
20:50 unless I'm looking in the wrong place
20:50 willkg it's in the sdk download.  there's a bindings directory.
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20:50 willkg you need to download both the gstreamer libs and also the sdk.
20:51 daf ha
20:51 the sdk includes .NET
20:51 willkg it includes all of .net?  i thought it was just bindings.
20:51 daf sorry, depends on
20:52 so now I have to install it on this XP install..
20:52 willkg are you getting the 0.10.6 stuff or the 0.10.7 beta stuff?  i'd recommend the latter.
20:53 daf hmm
20:53 0.10.6
20:53 why, out of curiosity?
20:54 also, what's up with the newer gtk build?
20:55 willkg the 0.10.6 stuff is from august 2010.
20:55 daf I see
20:55 willkg i don't know what you mean by that last question.
20:55 daf you recommended the build of gtk 2.16 over the 2.24 build
20:55 willkg right.
20:56 gtk after 2.16 has client-side windows and the Windows implementation had a lot of problems.  bendk had to do some non-trivial stuff to get it working.
20:57 what are you building?
21:00 daf ah, I see
21:00 nothing that does much windowing
21:00 we could use glut pretty easily instead, I think
21:00 it's a video game
21:01 willkg what do you need gstreamer for?
21:02 daf hmm, well, the game doesn't do any complex audio processing
21:03 it does do some simple audio synthesis
21:03 but the game is one of several projects that we'd like to get running on windows, some of which are heavily gstreamer-based
21:03 * willkg nods.
21:04 daf is there a good way to do simple cross-platform audio output in Python?
21:04 willkg i have no idea.
21:04 daf well, gstreamer will work
21:04 even if it is massive overkill for this particular project
21:17 weird, this SDK install has gst bindings but no gtk bindings
21:17 and the gst bindings use the gtk ones
21:19 hmm, maybe we need to use the pygtk installer
21:19 willkg you'll need to grab the python bindings, then.
21:27 daf hmm, they install to a different location than the gst bindings
21:27 do I need to munge sys.path manually or is there a better way to do this?
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