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| 15:07 | GitHub187 | [miro] geoffl pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/pculture/mi[…]99902c0...942e998 |
| 15:07 | [miro/master] Code cleanup. (#16359) - Ben Dean-Kawamura | |
| 15:07 | [miro/master] Merge pull request #171 from bendk/skippedbyuser - geoffl | |
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| 16:34 | z3p | bendk: on windows, Extractor has no attribute 'media_type' is killing moviedata |
| 16:38 | bendk: looks like it's exiting without calling "done()" | |
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| 18:23 | DanR_e | Hello. I would like to develop an index to the many Python videos one the web (Thanks for most of those, Carl). Miro seems to do that, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting my bearings. Can someone point me to the repo for the part of the miro project that manages the metadata for the [Python] (i.e. that drives the website)? |
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| 18:27 | z3p | DanR_e: are you talking about python.mirocommunity.org ? |
| 18:30 | DanR_e | yes, I guess I am. I thought that a good starting place would be to understand what metadata is available and how it is stored. The alternative is to scrape the various source collections for title info, but python.mirocommunity probably already has the info. I would like to browse title (and abstract) info in a more conveient way than clicking through hundreds of '[next page' links. |
| 18:31 | z3p | DanR_e: the code for that is hosted at http://github.com/pculture/mirocommunity |
| 18:31 | DanR_e: there isn't /really/ an API for it, although there are some JSON(P) methods you can use | |
| 18:31 | willkg | DanR_e: i don't understand what you're trying to do. |
| 18:32 | DanR_e: are you looking for title and abstract data for all the videos in a conference? | |
| 18:33 | DanR_e | thanks, I'll check that out. |
| 18:36 | willkg | DanR_e: ? |
| 18:36 | DanR_e | Will, There are a huge number of titles available. The web pages at python.mirocommunity, blip.tv, youtube, etc. seem to be presented for much smaller content collections. They make browsing large collections difficult at best, and flawed at times (multi-segment talks are not always presented as such with ajacent listing). I would like to create a few pages for easy browsing (formatted... |
| 18:36 | ...somewhat like PyCon schedule) | |
| 18:37 | willkg | DanR_e: are you trying to look at all the videos on the site or broken down by some filter? e.g. all the videos in a single conference? |
| 18:37 | DanR_e | I'd like to start with the former (no filters), and move on the the latter. |
| 18:38 | willkg | do you have a feed reader? probably makes sense to just look at the feed for the whole site. |
| 18:39 | DanR_e | I have not setup a feed reader. If I do that, will I get the full retrospecitve list? I doubt that I'm the only person with similar desire for a browsable overview. |
| 18:40 | willkg | you're the only person who's mentioned this in the three years i've been running the site. |
| 18:40 | DanR_e | Opps. maybe I am the only one. |
| 18:40 | willkg | if you use a feed reader, then it'll format it however you feed reader formats it. http://python.mirocommunity.or[…]ds/new?count=1000 |
| 18:41 | DanR_e | Ah, ha. I'll give that a try first. |
| 18:41 | willkg | the various multi-video pages kind of suck. i have an issue open to make them suck less: https://github.com/willkg/pmc/issues/9 |
| 18:42 | but i don't think my issue will solve your problem fully. Miro Community only has descriptions--there's no abstract/summary. so the choice is show the whole description (some are very long) or some portion of the description. | |
| 18:44 | DanR_e | The PyCon 2009 (or perhaps 2008) Schedule was a modell of elegance in the density of info available. Each block contained a brief abstract and eventually links to slides, video, and other media associated with the talk. The entire PyCon schedule was displayed on about three pages with those links. Now that the number of Python videos is approaching 1000, a similarly dense browsable... |
| 18:44 | ...display would be quite helpfil (to me, at least). | |
| 18:46 | willkg | all on a single page? |
| 18:47 | DanR_e | Not necessarily one page, but definitely less than 100 pages. Even having the titles would be useful for getting an idea of what's available on a topic (or what topics look worthwhile). |
| 18:49 | willkg | hrm. sounds like you need to pull down the data for the site and then mash it how you want it. i think the best option is to grab the rss feed and manipulate that. |
| 18:49 | DanR_e | A related issue is that the entire history of PyCon prior to 2010 seems to have disappeared from the web, other than the video record. Too bad. Metadata for those videos could include a link to the event info or meeting announcement. To start with, I am wondering what data is available. |
| 18:50 | Yes, pulling down the data would be a fine place to start. | |
| 18:51 | Pulling down the RSS feed should give me pleanty to work with for the immediate future. | |
| 18:52 | Thanks for that suggestion. I'll get right on it. Much easier than I thought it would be to get a good list. | |
| 18:52 | * willkg | nods. |
| 18:52 | willkg | good luck with that! |
| 18:53 | also, i'm pretty sure pycon conference data prior to what's on the website now is gone. i had problems pulling in older pycon conference video and giving it good metadata. | |
| 18:54 | DanR_e | What a pity. There was even good stuff way back in 2008, and it's really irritating that it's 'lost'. There is an open issue with the PyCon website team to retrieve old schedules, but I haven't seen any progress so far. |
| 18:55 | The PyCon website infrastructure changed from web2py to django, and I suspect that the older info is still in web2py form but without a web2py website being available. Just guessing. | |
| 18:58 | I have a couple of scraped pages of links to PyCon 2008 and 2009 media. Some still work, but blip.tv now seems to serve only Flash, not mp4 and other formats that used to be linkable on the blip.tv site. (Is this as true as it appearst to be?) | |
| 18:59 | willkg | i think it is. i find blip infuriating these days. |
| 19:00 | DanR_e | And they require that you login through Facebook and give them access to your Facebook identity. How annoying is that? |
| 19:00 | willkg | that i didn't know. i don't log into blip. |
| 19:01 | afk a bit. | |
| 19:02 | z3p | bendk: thanks so much for the helper process logging! |
| 19:02 | making my life so much easier | |
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| 19:20 | CarlFK | old pycon sites are archived somewhere, like in a shoe box. |
| 19:21 | it is on the long list of things to get to... that has been on that list for like .. a year. | |
| 19:26 | DanR_e | It does kind of make one wonder if they will ever be restored. Pity. On the other hand, once the new site settles in, restoring old material may rise in the queue. |
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| 20:04 | bendk | z3p: yeah mine too |
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| 20:06 | z3p | bendk: is glee still reviewing 170? |
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| 22:55 | melinath | lapilofu: yo |
| 22:55 | lapilofu | melinath: hello! |
| 22:55 | melinath | welcome |
| 22:57 | (lapilofu is working on redesigning the default mc templates) | |
| 22:57 | lapilofu | :) |
| 22:58 | willkg | yay! |
| 23:01 | melinath | indeed. |
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