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01:18 | HedgeMage | pdurbin: blog post that resulted from earlier conversation: https://binaryredneck.net/2017[…]orship-right-oss/ |
01:26 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: It's good. I'm not done. "Mentoring others is essential for ambitious people" doesn't resonate with me. I'm not training successors. I'm going for a win-win with students who will move on soon. They learn something. I get some work out of them. |
01:27 | HedgeMage | pdurbin: I hope that you are *also* doing succession planning for your projects, in that case. Too often, engineers don't, and projects suffer for it. |
01:28 | pdurbin: Can you enumerate other reasons for active mentoring in a concise way that I can add to the post? | |
01:29 | pdurbin | I'm not sure what you mean by active mentoring. |
01:31 | s/begger/beggar/ | |
01:31 | HedgeMage | pdurbin: Any mentoring that takes more effort than how I describe "arms-length coaching" in the post. |
01:32 | thanks, typo corrected | |
01:32 | pdurbin | I like this: "mentor and mentee should always know when and how the next regular communication is coming" |
01:40 | HedgeMage: interesting post. Good stuff, especially for BDFLs who are looking for a successor or do reduce the bus number of a project. I think I'm more interested in the health of the open source ecosystem rather than any particular project. | |
01:41 | That is to say, when people come along and say, "This open source thing sounds neat! How can I help?" ... I want to help them get started because that's what I said 20 years ago. | |
01:42 | HedgeMage | pdurbin: I'll try to work other motivations in. I think that working so hard to save/protect/maintain things that never had a real succession plan have made me somewhat hyperfocused on that angle. |
01:46 | pdurbin: updated with a section immediately after the bit about ambitious people | |
01:57 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: Yes! Pay it forward is what I'm talking about. Good addition. |
02:05 | HedgeMage | Thanks! I credited you at the top. |
02:10 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: aw, thanks! You didn't need to do that. |
02:10 | HedgeMage | It's the polite thing to do. :) |
02:13 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: you might enjoy https://sustainoss.org |
02:13 | I heard about it at https://changelog.com/podcast/bonus-sustainoss | |
02:13 | HedgeMage | Interesting. Shame I can't go, given the date. |
02:14 | pdurbin | Me neither. I'm bringing my kids camping. |
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