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| 14:48 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: I hope you're feeling better. I took another swing at the README at https://github.com/IQSS/open-source-at-harvard if you (or others here) would like to let me know what you think. |
| 15:10 | HedgeMage | pdurbin: That gives a lot more context. It might also be interesting if you had a way to operate on regular git repos, independent of the github api, so that people on other types of hosting could participate. |
| 15:11 | (This, btw, is why I don't trust Github data dumps in terms of language popularity: it's heavily biased toward the specific communities that use github, while other communities which prefer different kinds of hosting are ignored.) | |
| 15:12 | pdurbin: I think it's got to be useful within your institution, though. I know that getting a handle on what really was/wasn't happening across IU was was harder than I thought. | |
| 15:13 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: yeah, there's only one project I know of at Harvard that isn't on GitHub. In the README I asked folks like this to open an issue. I'm glad you like the additional context. |
| 15:14 | HedgeMage | pdurbin: Have you looked at the recent Jetbrains "State of Developer Ecosystem" thing? |
| 15:16 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: I hadn't seen https://www.jetbrains.com/rese[…]evecosystem-2017/ but I'm looking now. Thanks! |
| 15:16 | HedgeMage: I hear you on how it's got to be useful within my institutions. I added a bunch of questions to the top of the README. Which questions do you think I should be asking? | |
| 15:21 | HedgeMage | pdurbin: The things that would most interest me, relative to my institution, are: Pony Factor (it's a measure of a project's resilience to personnel turnover), funding source (right now a lot of critical stuff in academia is being supported on a lackluster "best effort" basis due to DOE, NSF, etc having "build good, maintenance bad" models), and a dev practices checklist (code review, automated testing, |
| 15:21 | static analysis, documentation and test coverage, etc.) | |
| 15:22 | Pony factor is the minimum number of committers, selecting only from those who have made commits in the last six months (i.e. active committers), you need to add together for their commits to total >50% of the entire current code base. | |
| 15:24 | A lot of projects think they're fairly robust because they have X contributors, without realizing that maybe only 1-2 people have actual access to the infrastructure (so if they are gone, no updates happen unless someone forks), or without realizing that someone who's drifted off to do other things for 18 months probably isn't reliable in this regard because even if they would respond to an emergency, they | |
| 15:24 | may not have current access credentials or remember how anything is set up. | |
| 15:25 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: I've never heard of Pony Factor before. Does https://ke4qqq.wordpress.com/2[…]pony-factor-math/ define it well? |
| 15:25 | HedgeMage | Yes, one of his talks is where I learned of it from. |
| 15:25 | He's not the original inventor of the term, but he's done more to popularize it than anyone I know. | |
| 15:27 | This reminds me... | |
| 15:27 | May I pm? | |
| 15:27 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: he being David Nalley or Daniel Gruno? |
| 15:27 | HedgeMage | David Nalley |
| 15:27 | Daniel Gruno came up with it originally, IIRC. | |
| 15:27 | David's done cooler talks on it, though, getting it out to more devs. | |
| 15:28 | Oops, I just realized the time...I must take my mini-hacker on an errand. Catch up with you later. | |
| 15:32 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: it's nice of you to ask to PM first. I'm sure vmbrasseur would approve, given what she put on slide 33 of https://ia801905.us.archive.or[…]seagl2016-irc.pdf . Yes, you are welcome to PM me any time. |
| 15:33 | * vmbrasseur | checks scrollback. |
| 15:33 | vmbrasseur | Ah! Yes, I certainly do approve. :) |
| 15:34 | HedgeMage++ :-) | |
| 15:49 | pdurbin | HedgeMage: for when you get back, I incorporated some of those great ideas into a comment at https://github.com/IQSS/open-s[…]comment-315617852 . Thanks! |
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| 17:31 | HedgeMage | pdurbin: nifty :) |
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| 18:12 | pdurbin | :) |
| 19:02 | Heh. Devdas Bhagat on Twitter: "@philipdurbin If that's the HedgeMage I know, then the IRC life is fairly old, when asking to PM was normal (I still do it)." - https://twitter.com/f3ew/statu[…]86651558296862720 | |
| 19:04 | HedgeMage | :) |
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